September 27, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Sitting here after several days of caption writing, I thought I’d just share one of the great images I have been collating and describing.
Just a lovely period photograph.
By: Clint Mitchell - 23rd December 2013 at 21:48
Thanks for the photos Andy, here are two others I have for this incident in my database:
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By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd December 2013 at 19:18
This is the other image I was referring to Hugh. Not sure if you have seen it?
By: Arabella-Cox - 23rd December 2013 at 09:41
Thanks, Hugh.
This was the original caption to the original photograph.
I also have one other image, taken from front starboard quarter, that I haven’t previously seen elsewhere although it may well be familiar to you, Hugh.
By: ian_ - 20th December 2013 at 07:21
Lovely picture Huw. It looks like an illustration from an Enid Blighton Blitz book.
By: H.Trivett - 20th December 2013 at 00:35
This appears to be another pic of the same incident.
Hello Skyskooter
Yes your photo is of the same incident and it’s unusual in that I have never seen this image before which I must have missed during my research all those years ago. When we were doing the preparatory work before filming the TV programme which featured the complete bomber crew, Peter Ayerst, and many eye witnesses, we were told by the girls – by then mature women – that they had been interviewed and filmed for a newsreel which was shown in cinemas all over Britain. We surmised the filming was done by either British Movieton or Pathe News but nothing was turned up by the HTV researchers. I have often wondered how thorough they went about their work? Did your photo come from this footage?
All the best
Hugh T
By: skyskooter - 19th December 2013 at 21:59
This appears to be another pic of the same incident.
By: H.Trivett - 19th December 2013 at 17:23
Hi Andy
I should read all the threads before posting a reply which would have contained the information that back in 1989 when I presented a TV programme on the events surrounding the crash of 1G+FS the young girls were then spritely women in their very early sixties and their married names were Wendy Smith (husband Mike) and Cathy Goodyear (husband Norman) and I have a nice photo of them taken with Peter Ayerst at the crash site. Also I have a photo of them with four of the German crew of 1G+FS when in April 1988 they visited Chester to check out the scene of their earlier visit in 1940. During this visit they were ‘entertained’ in the officers mess of RAF Sealand and it was an enjoyable visit for eveyone, their visit making the TV news and was a precursor for the subsequent TV show. Peter is still alive and the girls would be in their mid-eighties so they could still be around. I’ve lost their addresses but they were then living in the Chester area and I have some old telephone numbers if you want them.
Again all the best
Hugh
By: H.Trivett - 19th December 2013 at 16:17
Two girls and a crashed bomber
Sitting here after several days of caption writing, I thought I’d just share one of the great images I have been collating and describing.
Just a lovely period photograph.
Hi Andy
We’ll meet again over the Cliffs of Dover and in case you do not already know the identity of the two young girls in the photo they are Wendy Anderson and her cousin Cathy Jones posing alongside Heinkel He111P (1G+FS) that crashed at Borderhouse Farm on the 14th August 1940 and the event is well covered in my book. I have other photos of this incident if you are interested.
All the best
Hugh T
By: Mothminor - 29th September 2013 at 16:40
- He111P-2 – WNr.2624 – coded 1G+FS of 8./KG27 – 100% loss, Border House Farm near Chester, England on 14-Aug-40. Shot down by enemy fighters. Oblt. Arthur Wiesemann POW with crew [sources: Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, II, p.204; BoB, T&N, p.569 txt., fotos; Mason, p.247]
Cheers
Pete
Thanks. Just did a search for the pilot and turned up this earlier thread.
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?34094-Help-Please-Dornier-17-shot-down-at-RAF-Hawarden
By: AlanR - 29th September 2013 at 13:32
More here, and another picture : http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?34094-Help-Please-Dornier-17-shot-down-at-RAF-Hawarden
at #5.
Seems that one of the girls was the daughter of the farmer, and the other the daughter of the local butcher.
By: AlanR - 29th September 2013 at 13:24
A little more about this aircraft here: http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archive/index.php?t-27142.html
Under, Peter Cornwell
By: Peter D Evans - 29th September 2013 at 13:19
Do you know what became of the crew? Did all survive? Were they all on board when it crash-landed? Wonder if any of them are still with us?
Cheers
Pete
By: AlanR - 29th September 2013 at 13:16
Reminds me of a chap I once worked with.
He was a youngster living near RAF Southend during WWII. Whenever a German plane came down in the area, it was a race to see who could get there first.
The army or the kids. I imagine it was the same everywhere ?
By: bazv - 29th September 2013 at 13:13
Yes.
But then there would have been thousands of pigtailed girls in Germany, none of whom would fly bombers in action.
Although, thinking about it, did they have an equivalent of our ATA with female pilots ferrying aircraft?
Although not so well known as Hanna R…this lady was also a highly qualified and experienced test pilot…her brother in law is fairly well known though ; )
By: mike currill - 29th September 2013 at 13:08
Imagine health n safety today, now now children, please get back behind the ring of steel, its ten miles that way as you may cut yourself.
Evocative photograph, really captures the moment.
What I would give for that part sitting in the shed !!
Ha ha, given the dimensions of that lump of aeroplane I think it possible you might need something a little larger than the average garden shed.
By: Mothminor - 29th September 2013 at 11:55
Do you know what became of the crew? Did all survive? Were they all on board when it crash-landed?
Wonder if any of them are still with us?
By: snafu - 29th September 2013 at 11:19
Yes.
But then there would have been thousands of pigtailed girls in Germany, none of whom would fly bombers in action.
Although, thinking about it, did they have an equivalent of our ATA with female pilots ferrying aircraft?
By: Bager1968 - 29th September 2013 at 04:29
Don’t forget, in Germany back in the mid 20s where would have been a certain young girl looking very much like these two….
And she became a bomber pilot???
Angela Merkel? 😀
Hanna Reitsch
Born: March 29, 1912
Surely you’ve heard of her?
By: Arabella-Cox - 28th September 2013 at 22:29
No, the two trees are definitely dead. Nothing to do with the burning bomber.
By: Supermarine305 - 28th September 2013 at 22:05
Could be that those two trees are just dead. There does seem to be a lack of small twigs and branches which hints at this, plus the fact that the conifer -and the sheds in the background- seem to be untouched.