July 1, 2018 at 2:09 pm
Hi
Can anyone please help with the identity of a Spitfire that was previously dug in or around Cardiff a few years back.
As i have acquired part of a crash relic from frame 11 including part of the canopy rail runner attached and would like to give this part its correct identity.
This may help with its identity as i was told that when the aircraft was dug there was a Wartime repair to the tail leg section that was found.
Also i was led to believe that some forum members may of been on this particular dig.
Once again any help would be very much appreciated.
By: hawker1966 - 29th December 2019 at 18:49
Many thanks Ian
By: ian_ - 27th December 2019 at 23:21
That very much looks like a piece of X4773, Brad. Certainly not PT766, which was much more corroded.
By: hawker1966 - 27th December 2019 at 19:16
Just going back on this old thread i was just wondering Junk collector when you said
“Gareth Jones dug it, BOB machine”
Would you of been refering to PT766 or X4773? as i was lead believe whilst researching PT766 it said this aircraft was delivered to the RAF at 33 MU Lyneham 11-8-44.
or did you mean another Battle of Britain aircraft?
Although im pretty certain the relic i have is from X4773
Many thanks
By: hawker1966 - 6th July 2018 at 17:46
Thank you for the above replies some good suggestions that i will look into over the next couple of days.
In regards to vacbs question whether port or starboard i really havent as yet worked it out as the relic is in a poor state but i will hopefully be able work it out over the next few days.
A good suggestion Bruce again another avenue to look at and interesting that the cable is Bowden.
Farlanairframes i do believe that it is a strong possibility that this aircraft had met its end near Greendown inn St Georges superfly near Cardiff Wales.
Brad.
By: Bruce - 6th July 2018 at 11:28
Its not a flight control cable, so not trim.
Its a Bowden cable, not Teleflex, so I would go for possibly the underside flare door, or the harness release box.
By: QldSpitty - 6th July 2018 at 08:52
Just to add the cable appears to attached (clipped) to the inner fuselage red photo, so may possibly not be the Sutton Harness cable.
Any ideas?
Trim cable would go through a fairlead at F12 and not clipped on fuselage.Radio Teflex is a possibility.
By: FarlamAirframes - 6th July 2018 at 08:46
This is a piece from a machine dug somewhere near Cardiff ( super Ely ?) is this the same bird ?
https://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?131859-Spitfire-Frame-19-Longeron-Fixing&highlight=
By: Sopwith - 6th July 2018 at 08:12
Still think trimmer tab cable but wouldn’t know if rudder or elevator.
By: VACB - 5th July 2018 at 23:29
Teleflex cable for a TR9 controller and set perhaps?
Is the relic you have from port or starboard side? That might assist in knowing the cable’s application.
By: hawker1966 - 5th July 2018 at 19:08
The two images below may help as the first one shows the cable going through one of the holes from frame 12, so I would imagine the cable would of run from the front of the fuselage through frame 12 and beyond.
The second image shows the back of cable clip fastener.
By: Sopwith - 5th July 2018 at 18:44
Trimmer cable?
By: stuart gowans - 5th July 2018 at 17:47
The canopy release ball is mounted to the canopy itself, the cables run from that to the release pins, all of which goes with the canopy, when jettisoned,
By: hawker1966 - 5th July 2018 at 17:35
Just to add the cable appears to attached (clipped) to the inner fuselage red photo, so may possibly not be the Sutton Harness cable.
Any ideas?
I will take a look at the Canopy Jettison Versuch.
By: hawker1966 - 5th July 2018 at 17:27
Hi Stuart gowans
Would this be the part of the Harness that you have suggested?
http://spitfiresite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/07628_011.jpg
By: stuart gowans - 5th July 2018 at 11:37
Sutton harness release ?
By: Versuch - 4th July 2018 at 23:00
Canopy jettison cable, if it runs along the forward and lower frames of the canopy.
Cheers Mike
By: hawker1966 - 4th July 2018 at 15:40
One more question would any one no what the cable is in this photo? It’s covering appears to be a made of material inside the metal cable is kind of coiled around a brake type cable, could this be canopy related?
By: hawker1966 - 4th July 2018 at 15:25
Thank you once again for every ones help above,thats great diagram of frame12 Oldspitty i will use this to put with the relic itself and information regarding it being possibly from X4773 but will mark it up as (possible) but with thanks to Ian its a good possibility going by the description of PT766s remains.
Brad
By: QldSpitty - 4th July 2018 at 00:03
Looks like it 🙂
Frame 12 .Lovely 🙂
By: ian_ - 3rd July 2018 at 22:42
From the condition Brad, certainly X4773. You’ve marked the correct frame, the one closer to the cockpit is a double skinned box section.