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Help to i/d wheel

We’ve had a pair of these for some years but have been unable to identify them.

They are quite large (2ft 9ins dia) and we believed them to be something like Comet nosewheels. However, on closer inspection there appears to be attachment holes for a brake drum, so that rules that one out.

Any ideas/suggestions?

Anon.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st August 2012 at 19:11

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That sound pretty conclusive.

I’ll try and remember to look for numbers anyway and this may confirm, or otherwise, investigations to date.

Thanks again.

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By: pagen01 - 21st August 2012 at 14:08

The style of wheel shown above is in a 1950 Dunlop advert, it looks to have been a short run item though.

After Viscount c/n 2 different styles of Dunlop and Goodyear wheel equipment was used.

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By: radarsdesk - 21st August 2012 at 11:43

I would go along with Viscount, as the wheel doesn’t look like it’s a Dunlop type and from memory the Viscount was fitted with Goodyear wheels and brake equipment.

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By: pagen01 - 21st August 2012 at 10:29

Viscount 630

Bingo! The prototype Viscount, V.630 G-AHRF, did indeed appear to have these wheels fitted. From the third aircraft (V.700) on the undercarriage was modified and the wheels are different.
It also appears that the second aircraft, V.663 Tay Viscount VX217, had these wheels, but on different undercarriage legs of course.

I’m pretty sure from looking at pics of very early Varsity c ’49/50 that the same wheel was used on them, looks like it was favoured by Vickers.

All the other types listed so far have different style wheels.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st August 2012 at 00:01

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Thanks for the info so far, chaps.

I’ll have a scrape around the wheel rim next time I’m at the store and see what I can find.

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By: radarsdesk - 20th August 2012 at 22:55

Info taken from an un-dated Dunlop Aviation Equipment Manual list the following aircraft types with that tyre size:

Gannet Mk1 & 2
Sturgeon TTMk2
VA Type 508 (Scimitar)
VA Type 529 (Scimitar)
Viscount 630
Breguet Vultur

Hope that helps somewhat, although a p/n from the tyre and wheel would help too.

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By: pagen01 - 20th August 2012 at 22:49

Hi Anon, can you post any part/id numbers on the wheels here? Also do you know where abouts they came from?

The nearest I can find to these is a 1950 Dunlop advert which seems to show the same wheels on a twin wheel bogey.
The only aircraft that I can find with these wheels is very early Varsity (stress, not the same wheels we see in most pics or survivors), but the pictures aren’t of good enough quality to absolutely confirm.

The annoying thing is that I’m sure that I’ve seen clear pics of these fitted to something, they’re quite distinctive.

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By: TerryP - 20th August 2012 at 18:36

A list that I have quotes this tyre size for wheels AH8310 (Sturgeon), AH8800, AH8868, AH8883, AH8891, AH9349, and AH9729 (Gannet). Don’t know about tread patterns though.

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By: The Beach - 20th August 2012 at 10:29

probably wrong but tyres with that type of tread ? wernt they operated predomanantly off grass strips.

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By: pagen01 - 20th August 2012 at 09:53

Definitely not Gannet, of any type.
Not Belfast either, which had a more modern wheel design.

My hunch is early British post-war type, but I’ve exhausted all my ideas!
Beginning to wonder if they even be from a prototype, and initially wondered if they were very early Comet bogey type.

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By: RadarArchive - 20th August 2012 at 06:16

According to the Dunlop website, that size fits a Belfast. These particular wheels could be from something else, but they are potentially from a Belfast. Check for a part number – if the have the part number DR3223T then they are definitely Belfast.

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By: Wyvernfan - 19th August 2012 at 21:48

Something says Gannet AEW.3 to me, although i’m not sure they had a different spec or design to the AS model.

James (pagen01) will confirm or deny

Rob

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