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Help with abbreviation

Gentlemen!

In some old docs I meet unknown abbreviation in navy helicopters designation, such us F.A.E, F.I.R, T.A.E. What do they mean?

Regards, Andrey

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By: bazv - 30th June 2013 at 23:02

Subconciously I was not happy with my earlier post…I am more au fait with RAF acronyms than FAA ones !!
From this website (modern FAA)

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQFjABOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armedforces.co.uk%2Fnavy%2Flistings%2Fl0032.html&ei=8KfQUdLsMcjmOp-FgNAD&usg=AFQjCNEgqFduh2pB0DXWrbRKg6LqXTe8lw&sig2=aN7siokEcGeswd5r-pVqaA

I got this acronym which is very similar…
NAVAL AIRCRAFT (FAF FORWARD AVAILABLE FLEET)

Forward Available Fleet =
Aircraft available to the Front Line and training units. Aircraft can move freely between Fit for Purpose and Short Term Unserviceable status within the Forward fleet.

FAF also seems to be used by the modern RAF,FAF may be a modern acronym and totally different to FAE !

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By: HP111 - 30th June 2013 at 18:12

It was first what I did

Fair enough – it wasn’t apparent from your original posting.

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By: bazv - 30th June 2013 at 17:01

Hi Andrey…
It may not be the exact answer…pure speculation on my part !
Hopefully somebody else will provide a definite answer.

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By: pzluchs - 30th June 2013 at 16:57

Full Aircraft Establishment = 18 a/c per carrier with 6 in reserve (FIR)

It’s very probable, thanks

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By: pzluchs - 30th June 2013 at 16:49

Apparently you didn’t find it helpful. Did you follow it through?

It was first what I did

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By: PeterVerney - 30th June 2013 at 16:45

“Establishment” could certainly fit the bill, in the ’50s a fighter squadron would have an “establishment” of 16 aircraft and 20 pilots

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By: bazv - 30th June 2013 at 16:22

As pure speculation the ‘E’ might be an abbreviation for ‘Establishment’ or ‘Established’… ie the number of aircraft established for each carrier !
So FAE might mean (something like)… Full Aircraft Establishment = 18 a/c per carrier with 6 in reserve (FIR)

Each unit would have an ‘establishment’ for a certain number of personnel so might have been similar for aircraft/equipment

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By: HP111 - 30th June 2013 at 16:11

Thanks Cap, very informative answer. Have You another one?

Apparently you didn’t find it helpful. Did you follow it through?

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By: pzluchs - 30th June 2013 at 15:05

Gentlemen!

This is extract from archive’s case:
“…4. the number of aircraft that will require modification is as follows:-

Wessex/Whirlwind

18 F.A.E.+6 F.I.R. in each of 2 Commando Carriers = 48
3 T.A.E. for Commando O.F.S. training = 3

P.531

2 F.A.E.+1 F.I.R in carrier East of Suez = 3…”

Exsample dated july 1961. I think that google’s interpretation not suitable for this abbreviation

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By: Mothminor - 30th June 2013 at 14:52

Tactical Aeromed Evacuation would seem the best bet for T.A.E.

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By: Lazy8 - 30th June 2013 at 13:15

pzluchs, I don’t know the answers, but you might find these useful. I’m sure there are others…
http://www.dia.mil/public-affairs/foia/pdf/abbrev_acron.pdf
http://www.fas.org/news/reference/lexicon/acf.htm

If you’re going to ask questions like that in future, it would probably be helpful to include an idea of the date in question, and whose navy you’re talking about. Not everything is Nato-standard.

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By: pimpernel - 30th June 2013 at 13:13

F.A.E = Fuel Air Explosion weapon.

F.I.R = Flight Information Region.

No idea what the last one is.

Hope this helps.

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By: pzluchs - 30th June 2013 at 11:42

Thanks Cap, very informative answer. Have You another one?

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By: HP111 - 30th June 2013 at 09:17

Try on Google ‘abbreviation …’ (substitute the appropriate one) and take your choice.

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