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Help with Spitfire project – Duxford 2005

I require some help with a Spitfire modelling project would be extremely grateful if anyone can help – maybe you were at Duxford on the 10th September, or are just vastly knowledgeable about airworthy Spitfires in the UK.

Anyway, I am modelling all of the Spitfires that took part in the incredible 11-aircraft display of formation flying, tail-chase and individual/’synchro-pair’ aerobatics. Many of my photos from the day didn’t come out and as a result I am not 100% sure which aircraft were in the air. I believe I’ve identified most of them, and the markings they were in, but a couple are proving trickier.

The aircraft I think I have right, with their markings, codes etc. are as follows:

Mk IIa P7350 XT-D
Mk LFVb EP120 AE-A
Mk Vc AR501 NN-A
Mk IX MH434 ZD-B
Mk IX MW732 in Dutch livery 3W-17
Mk PRXIX PS915 as PS 888 ‘The Last’
Mk PRXI PL965 R
Mk TrIX PT462 Irish Air Corps 161
Mk XIV RN201 Red and silver racing livery

The ones I require help with are as follows: I believe the ‘Grace’ two seater Mk. TrIX ML407 was flying, but if it was, I don’t know which codes it was carrying. The only photo I’ve seen doesn’t look like the OU-U codes the aircraft has carried in the past

In addition, there was a ‘bubble top’ Mk XVI in the display for the formation flypast only – I have a strong suspicion this is TD248, but can anyone confirm, and tell me what codes it was carrying?

Finally, the BBMF PRXIX was carrying the PS888 ‘The Last’ slogan on the cowling, and this aircraft’s grey upper fuselage and upper surfaces of wings. The aircraft still carries its PS915 serial on the rear fuselage. However, pictures of PS888 show that it wore large (probably 36in) serials on the undersides of the wings – does anyone know if PS915 has these in its own, or PS888’s identity? I suspect it has no underwing serials at all, but confirmation would be nice.

Many thanks for indulging me!

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By: XN923 - 4th November 2005 at 10:03

Absolutely astounding stuff, my heartfelt thanks to all who have contributed.

In case anyone’s wondering on the model front, the kits etc. I will be using will most likely be as follows:

P7350 XT-D – Tamiya Mk1
EP120 AE-A – Revell MkVb (they even offer this aircraft as an option)
AR501 NN-A – Airfix Vc
MH434 ZD-B – Italeri MkIX
MW732 – Italeri MkIX
PS915 as PS 888 – Czechmaster Resin MkXIV fuselage, wings and canopy modified
PL965 – MPM MkPRXI
PT462 Irish Air Corps 161 – Italeri MkIX with Brigade TrIX conversion
RN201 – Academy XIV with wings clipped
ML407 – Italeri MkIX with Brigade TrIX conversion and canopy from spares box
TD248 – Aeroclub ‘bubbletop’ coversion with Spare MkIX fuselage and MkV wings (or a Heller XVI, I haven’t decided yet, but I have all the other parts.)

I should be finished for the centenary of the BofB…

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By: Neil Medcalf - 4th November 2005 at 01:05

spitfire photos

For excellent photos of all these aircraft try looking on Airliners.net. They have many excellent shots of Spitfires in both current schemes and past ones. Just enter the serial no of choice into the seach engine or just type Spitfire. There’s always a great new shot every week it seems..
Enjoy-
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By: Bruggen 130 - 3rd November 2005 at 23:47

hi
A pic of 81Sqd Badge on PS915. 🙂
Phil.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/Bruggen/Spit.jpg

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By: 92fis - 3rd November 2005 at 20:38

Here are a couple of the spits for you XN923.

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By: ollieholmes - 3rd November 2005 at 18:50

Did anyone get any flying shots of the dutch one. I would like to see some as sadly my camera batterys decided to run out just after they took off.

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By: DazDaMan - 3rd November 2005 at 18:45

Why is the v smaller and in that position? Also who owns the all silver spitfire with what i believe to be polish roundals on it:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2470/pict0158e3qf.jpg
i cant ever recall seing it before. Has it been repainted recantly? Also who owns the camouflaged late mark that was flying?

Because the larger ID letter V was painted over during the application of the stripes, and reapplied in this position. I would think so, anyway.

The silver Spitfire is the Dutch-owned MK732/PH-OUQ/3W-17.

The late-mark Spit you’re thinking of is probably HFL’s Spit 18, SM845.

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By: ollieholmes - 3rd November 2005 at 18:41

The MkIX in Dutch livery was MK732 😉

ML407 carries her original codes as they were on D-Day: OU-V. The aircraft only carries the full-size OU letters, with a smaller v just beneath the canopy.

Why is the v smaller and in that position? Also who owns the all silver spitfire with what i believe to be polish roundals on it:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2470/pict0158e3qf.jpg
i cant ever recall seing it before. Has it been repainted recantly? Also who owns the camouflaged late mark that was flying?

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By: XN923 - 3rd November 2005 at 15:53

Superb, just what I’m after!

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By: Mark12 - 3rd November 2005 at 13:20

Perfect!! Thanks all.

Mark12 – you mention ‘specifying underwing serials’ which gives you an tone…! Could you tell me what colour grey is used for the upper surfaces?

Thanks

Oh, and are they 36in?

XN923

Ominously official. I like that. 🙂

Yes I did all the technical stuff to refinish PS915 as “The Last” about a couple of years ago.

There are variations on the dimensions of underwing serials onPR Spitfires post WWII. Those applied to PS915 mirror exactly those on PS888, that is 24″ x 15″(nominal) x 3″ stroke in style characters as A.P.970.

The top deck, the upper wings and the upper tail planes/elevator were painted in Medium Sea Grey.

The Spinner is ‘Sky Blue’ which is an almost white – duck egg blue.

There is an an 81 Squadron Badge just in front of the cockpit entrance.

Mark

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/150_5054.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/150_5053.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/150_5052.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/150_5051.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/150_5050.jpg

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By: BennoT6 - 3rd November 2005 at 13:18

MK732

Hi Mr. XN923,

Small typing-error. Ours is MK732; not MW732

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By: DazDaMan - 3rd November 2005 at 13:02

I seem to remember specifying underwing serials. 😉

Mark

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/118_1816a.jpg

I stand corrected – I couldn’t remember for the life of me! 😮

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By: XN923 - 3rd November 2005 at 11:27

Perfect!! Thanks all.

Mark12 – you mention ‘specifying underwing serials’ which gives you an ominously official tone…! Could you tell me what colour grey is used for the upper surfaces?

Thanks

Oh, and are they 36in?

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By: LAHARVE - 3rd November 2005 at 10:21

XN923, you said-
‘The ones I require help with are as follows: I believe the ‘Grace’ two seater Mk. TrIX ML407 was flying, but if it was, I don’t know which codes it was carrying. The only photo I’ve seen doesn’t look like the OU-U codes the aircraft has carried in the past’
I was not at the September show, but have pics of the scheme you are looking for,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/LAHarve/New%20Zealand/Duxford09092005081Medium.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/LAHarve/Spitfires/GLFIXcg1.jpg

The earlier scheme…

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/LAHarve/New%20Zealand/Scan0010Medium.jpg

Hope this is helpful

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By: Mark12 - 3rd November 2005 at 10:11

Finally, the BBMF PRXIX was carrying the PS888 ‘The Last’ slogan on the cowling, and this aircraft’s grey upper fuselage and upper surfaces of wings. The aircraft still carries its PS915 serial on the rear fuselage. However, pictures of PS888 show that it wore large (probably 36in) serials on the undersides of the wings – does anyone know if PS915 has these in its own, or PS888’s identity? I suspect it has no underwing serials at all, but confirmation would be nice.

Many thanks for indulging me!

I seem to remember specifying underwing serials. 😉

Mark

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/Album%202/118_1816a.jpg

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By: DazDaMan - 3rd November 2005 at 09:29

The MkIX in Dutch livery was MK732 😉

ML407 carries her original codes as they were on D-Day: OU-V. The aircraft only carries the full-size OU letters, with a smaller v just beneath the canopy.

TD248 – CR-S

I think, but I’m not sure, PS915 doesn’t carry serials beneath her wings. There was some recent film footage of her on the BBC website, doign a wing-over with the EFA Typhoon, and I don’t recall seeing serials, but I could be wrong.

Hope this helps somehow!

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