Hendon's Stuka

Phil Merton has sold his project to another collector in Germany, hence the lack of a website, which is a pity

Thank you.Had great potential but think it was a bit over his head..Hope the new owner has better luck 🙂

I’m not sure if this is the Berlin Tech Museum Stuka before recovery.

I see similarities and it was recovered from the Murmansk area, Ju-87R-2 LI+BL . But there are significantly more bullet holes and damage from the time the B/W photo was taken.

I remember the photo of stacked Jumo or DB engine blocks in the weeds, but I thought that those were from behind a shed in France and they have been sold. I do think they were Jumo engine blocks.

Yes, occasionally you can do a Finite Element Model (FEM) stress model which is right first time but when you’re in the business of ensuring that pilots are not killed by the Aeroplane folding up around them you really need a test validated FEM……..and that’s where it really gets expensive.

It also goes wrong from a certification perspective as well because a new structural design and justification is legally a new aircraft type so is subject to the latest certification rules…..oh the pain just keeps coming.

The rear canopy mods made for the film were removed in around 2010, and replaced with the original MG81Z turret, the 37mm underwing cannons are apparently in store at what was RAF Stafford,now MOD Stafford. Phil Merton has sold his project to another collector in Germany, hence the lack of a website, which is a pity because there were some very good photos on it, especially the field full of Jumo engines. [ATTACH=CONFIG]256848[/ATTACH] I’m not sure if this is the Berlin Tech Museum Stuka before recovery.

Can you do a stress analysis on a computer without building anything these days?

Well this piece is unusual as most of the Ju87 wing is anodised – this is bare metal inside.

Does anyone have any images of the starboard wing leading edge when they removed the outer wing ?

This piece I am sure is a Ju87 starboard wing from the leading edge of the inboard side of the join – the anodised doohickey seems to be specific to this area.

The steel part is the start of the undercarriage leg upper brace.

Unfortunately someone has drilled and countersunk right through the R8 number but the 7 and anodising seems to be correct otherwise it would have been a no brainer.

Thanks

Engineering drawings are thin on the ground for the Stuka as far as I know..Only way is to reverse engineer a wrecked one and create a new set of manufacturing drawings using CATIA or Solidworks..Its the engineering paper trail you need for stress analysis of parts.Ju87,s are built like a P40,split in top and bottom halves with longitudinal stringers.Most important structure is the cockpit tub and “Trager” assemblies under it for the outer wings.

Let’s not forget that the tropical Stuka in Chicago had a very comprehensive 3-D scan in 2015 when she was taken down from the rafters for “cleaning”. I surmised then, and still do, that although the scan was done for “research and educational” purposes, the data could be very useful for a rebuild/new build. Note then even removed some parts for detailed scanning. Can’t imagine they did all that for giggles.

Here is the company’s post on their project:

http://www.neomek.com/company/news/3d-scanning-stuka/

I’m a little confused by the comments from Neomek, since they say that they were scanning the aircraft “inside and out” but then go on to say that they scanned the exterior, cockpit, engine, and loose parts. I interpret that as no internal structure, although precise rivet line measurements can be matched to surviving engineering drawings in CAD software (similar to what is being done with the Canadian Typhoon project.)

I do hope that the data can be put to good use in a restoration. The example in Chicago that was scanned is an R-2/Trop and the Flying Heritage Collection example also just so happens to be an R-2, so maybe…….:cool:

I’ve figured it is a pretty safe bet that the data gained from that scanning work of the Chicago Stuka is aiding the FHC Stuka restoration. It has been reported for some years now as being under restoration to fly, and the correct variant of Jumo engine for it has been undergoing overhaul/restoration at Vintage V-12s.

Let’s not forget that the tropical Stuka in Chicago had a very comprehensive 3-D scan in 2015 when she was taken down from the rafters for “cleaning”. I surmised then, and still do, that although the scan was done for “research and educational” purposes, the data could be very useful for a rebuild/new build. Note then even removed some parts for detailed scanning. Can’t imagine they did all that for giggles.

Here is the company’s post on their project:

http://www.neomek.com/company/news/3d-scanning-stuka/

Phil Merten in Belgium had Stuka remains..Web page is dead now me thinks..Had a spar built off memory.
https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=154786
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/armour-weapons-aircraft-recovery/website-stuka-lovers-parts-recovery-history-rebuilding-lots-more-25057/

I seem to remember reading an article in Aeroplane or Flypast regarding the restoration to flight of several Luftwaffe types(ALL Genuine) in the UK somewhere. I think there was Ju87, Me109, Me110 and Fw190 mentioned. Haven’t heard or seen anything since that article, anyone else remember seeing or hearing anything?

Roger

An interesting rabbit hole to go down that has been the topic of much discussion – Glenn Lacey and RLM Aviation:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.berliner-zeitung.de%2Fglenn-lacey–der-dem-technikmuseum-viel-geld-spendieren-wollte–hat-selber-millionenschulden-der-maezen-hat-nichts-zu-verschenken-15897470&edit-text=&act=url
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1589
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?89730-G-STUK-Stuka
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=26253

This one?

DSC_1566_resize by Jelle Hieminga, on Flickr

And don’t forget the one in Berlin:

DSC_0587_resize by Jelle Hieminga, on Flickr

The Ju 87 remains at Sinsheim shouldn’t be forgotten.

at least you don’t have to dig a hole for a barn find, just find the barn

Plus you can build the barn out of inexpensive Pine instead of using expensive Teak.

hat coat……..

I seem to remember reading an article in Aeroplane or Flypast regarding the restoration to flight of several Luftwaffe types(ALL Genuine) in the UK somewhere. I think there was Ju87, Me109, Me110 and Fw190 mentioned. Haven’t heard or seen anything since that article, anyone else remember seeing or hearing anything?

Roger

What would I give to see one of these restored to flight 😮

Hi
think the first one to fly will be this side of the pond
when FHC offers to anyone $50,000 for a full set a/c drawings and $20,000 for a full set engine drawings, they must be serious about it.
cheers
jerry

Where did the Red Tail filming replicas go?

A fine question! I was amazed when I saw them in the movie – I had to rewind to check I wasn’t seeing things!

re # 26. Thank you for the up date!

About 16 years ago I recall that the excellent Aviation Museum in Malta had rescued a Hurricane from the Med. That has been on display for a number of years and has had a remarkable restoration. There was also ‘talk’ of raising a JU87 that was also close by on the sea bed. Further that Stuka was said to be an Italian Air Force example.

Until this topic emerged on the Forum I had forgotten about this Stuka….so, does anyone have an update to offer and did it happen to arrive at the museum?

The Italian Stuka is the one off of the coast of Croatia. There was initial talk of recovery but instead it was left in place. It has potential as a pattern aircraft if there was ever a recovery.

The Hellenic Air Force Museum in Greece does not even mention the Stuka that was recovered there, which is odd. I thought they eventually planned to move it inside, but maybe it is still outdoors.