High Salvington Heinkel

Andy,
If you could please dig out the picture from the ebay page and also tell me who the seller was? The guy I got it from is quite well known and certainly respectable, as far as I know he did not list it for sale….. I purchased it from him during a visit.
I need to get up into the loft to read exactly what is on the label again but in my opinion that label is certainly original and genuine. I do recall it says: Type: Bomber He111, Location: Salvington, the other details I need to remind myself of!
Like I said, very interested in seeing that ebay page so I can compare.
Regards

:diablo:

Mike

With all due respect, a tailwheel purporting to be from the High Salvington He 111 most certainly DID appear on e-bay not too long ago. It had a label attached, bluish green if I recall correctly, stating that it was to be taken to RAF Ford….again, thats from memory. I do, though, have a print out of the e-bay auction page including photo which I will dig out of my file and post here. The wheel offered at that time was, in my view, quite phoney. There were numerous reasons for coming to that quite definite conclusion. If, however, you are confident that the wheel you now own IS perfectly genuine, and is also clearly a different wheel, then I’m delighted you have such a nice item in your collection.

Maybe this was one of the unique double-tailwheel Heinkel’s.:D

I wasn’t trying to be contentious. Just stating things as I see them.

Wont be the first tail wheel on ebay with a suspect history, back about 2 years ago there was a perfect tail wheel off the me111 off Hermann Görings nephew, considering it hit solid rock with crew missing it had no damage still with air in the tyre:rolleyes:

I wonder as the 15th of september approches who will be the first on ebay to list a bit of ray holmes hurricane, as undouptly that dig will be on tv again:diablo:

Mike

With all due respect, a tailwheel purporting to be from the High Salvington He 111 most certainly DID appear on e-bay not too long ago. It had a label attached, bluish green if I recall correctly, stating that it was to be taken to RAF Ford….again, thats from memory. I do, though, have a print out of the e-bay auction page including photo which I will dig out of my file and post here. The wheel offered at that time was, in my view, quite phoney. There were numerous reasons for coming to that quite definite conclusion. If, however, you are confident that the wheel you now own IS perfectly genuine, and is also clearly a different wheel, then I’m delighted you have such a nice item in your collection.

Maybe this was one of the unique double-tailwheel Heinkel’s.:D

I wasn’t trying to be contentious. Just stating things as I see them.

Heinkel Tailwheel

Hi all,

Firstly i’d like to say that I do own the tailwheel from this aircraft, I have only owned it for about 6 months having bought it from a private collection where it had been for years. It is not and never has been for sale – on ebay or anywhere else.
If there was a tailwheel on ebay supposedly from this aircraft it certainly was phoney! I’m not keen on the way people always assume something is a fake as soon as it is mentioned??? Why would I make this provenance up when its in my collection and not going anywhere for any money. I’m quite happy to send photo’s of the wheel for use in the book, so if the originator of the thread gets in touch with me, we can arrange that.
This wheel does have the original RAF salvage form attached with all the details of the crash ie. Location, type, number, RAF MU that recovered it…. the axle still runs through the wheel and has been chopped at both sides of the wheel when salvaged. You don’t get much better provenance!

Mike

I’d place an ad in the local paper….someone’s widow or child/grandchild may have a bit just lying around not knowing what to do with it but unwilling to throw it in the bin because its old.

Also, by dealing with locals, you’re far less likely to get the professional scammers that frequent ebay and other areas.

I’d also state in the ad that even if they have something that’s not for sale, you’d be interested in seeing it for historic documentation purposes..
(going that route might even get you a free story in the publication).

For many local newspapers, you won’t even need to take out an ad. If you are sufficiently fluent to produce an interesting press release, they’ll probably run it as a story. In all likelihood a story will give you more credibility than an ad – and it’s more likely to be seen and read and, in consequence, to produce a positive response.

P.s. Anyone with unwanted High Salvington Heinkel souvinirs, I would gladly offer cash for them.

I’d place an ad in the local paper….someone’s widow or child/grandchild may have a bit just lying around not knowing what to do with it but unwilling to throw it in the bin because its old.

Also, by dealing with locals, you’re far less likely to get the professional scammers that frequent ebay and other areas.

I’d also state in the ad that even if they have something that’s not for sale, you’d be interested in seeing it for historic documentation purposes..
(going that route might even get you a free story in the publication).

You tell me….!

As a vendor, personally, I have never had such problems.

Elliott

Graham’s book is certainly a nice little publication. However, I have serious doubts about the provenance of some of the artefacts that have surfaced from this aeroplane in recent months. If I were he, I’d keep my money in my pocket and not be tempted to try to purchase the supposed tailwheel from this Heinkel. It was offered on e bay a while back. In my view it was a phoney. Similarly, so were the collection of German coins found recently at the crash site and also offered on e bay as well as numerous other artefacts offered there.

Sadly, a regularly repeated theme.

Andy,

Caveat Emptor eh! or these day’s should that be Caveat Venditor??:rolleyes:

It’s a sad business Andy and every collectors nightmare. It sounds like the aircraft was heavily souvenired at the time so hopefully a few more items will turn up…. Provenence as usual is everything 😮

Elliott

Graham’s book is certainly a nice little publication. However, I have serious doubts about the provenance of some of the artefacts that have surfaced from this aeroplane in recent months. If I were he, I’d keep my money in my pocket and not be tempted to try to purchase the supposed tailwheel from this Heinkel. It was offered on e bay a while back. In my view it was a phoney. Similarly, so were the collection of German coins found recently at the crash site and also offered on e bay as well as numerous other artefacts offered there.

Sadly, a regularly repeated theme.