Hispano 1112 and Casa 2.111

Yes please! 🙂

While we’re on the subject, does anyone have a copy of the Aeroplane Monthly article on the OFMC Buchon, from about July 1998, that they could scan and send to me?

I’ve ordered an Airfix Bf109G and I fancy doing it in a similar scheme to G-BOML…!

I’ve a copy of the article if your still looking ?

Someone really wanted that Buchon book! £46.00 😮

Not a play on words at all. Messer is German and Yiddish for knife.

Mules and Knives

From memory, the Jumo engines on the Avia S-199 were ex-bomber types….so less horsepower than the DB-605, and tuned to be optimal for high torque, low-rpm applications. Combine that with the small tail area and narrow undercarriage of the Messerschmitt Bf109G, and you have a combination destined to give a mule-like kick in the pants for the unwary pilot. I did read elsewhere though that the Israeli pilots nicknamed the Avia S-199 “The Knife”, something of a play of words on Messer.

Further too my post above it seems the Merlin engined Buchon falls neatly between the S199 and Bf 109 for performance. The margin between the 109 and 199 is scary and I can easily understand how the 199 collected the nickname now.

Air Enthusiast did good overviews of both types in its issues back in the mid 1990s. I think I have a magazine with articles on He 111s in use by the Ejercito del Aire, including the licence built variants.

A good source of information on the Czech Avia S-199 is Classic Warbirds Fighter Archive No.9 by Ventura Publications. Not sure if its still in print.

http://www.venturapublications.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66&products_id=181&zenid=uukjaa5c6situdhc7rhklci3k4

Thanks for that confirmation Daz. I must have a look sometime and see how the Jumo engined ones compare with the Daimler and Merlin engined variants in terms of performance figures.

I think you’re right there, Mike. The Jumo engine, coupled with the ‘109’s already tricky ground handling, did not a good fighter make, although I think some kills were scored by Mezek pilots!

I memory serves me correctly I seem to recall the Israeli pilots nicknamed the Avia 199 Mezek (Mule). Whether that was a reference to its handling qualities or not I have no idea.

Another interesting bird is the Avia S.199, it is pretty ironic that the Bf.109 eventually became the first combat aircraft of the air forces of the state of Israel.

@qwerty,

Have you seen this WWP book on the Avia S-199 and CS-199?
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/may/new-releases/book-wwp_avia.htm

Walkaround photos, drawings and sectional “cutaways” and some technical discussion in the photo captions.

Regards,
…geoff

While we’re on the subject, does anyone have a copy of the Aeroplane Monthly article on the OFMC Buchon, from about July 1998, that they could scan and send to me?

I’ve ordered an Airfix Bf109G and I fancy doing it in a similar scheme to G-BOML…!

Thanks again everybody for the links, you all saved me a lot searching.

For Avia 199 try this.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&hl=en&qscrl=1&rlz=1T4SHCN_enGB440GB441&biw=1276&bih=656&tbm=isch&tbnid=HFLIky27cU6JNM:&imgrefurl=http://101squadron.com/101/media.html&docid=hl9llCQ63egbGM&imgurl=http://101squadron.com/101/cover.png&w=609&h=787&ei=ORyRUtPJMtGV7AaVxYGoAg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:4,s:0,i:95&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=167&tbnw=129&start=0&ndsp=20&tx=99&ty=53

Or Leo Nomis’s book Desert Hawks

Septic.

There is/was a good 2 part article in ‘Air Enthusiast’ on the CASA 2-111 and their Spanish service (“Homegrown Pedro’s”), No.90 November/December 2000 Jumo variants and No.91 January/February 2001 Merlin variants.

**Edit** Here is one…. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIR-ENTHUSIAST-AEQ-91-USAFE-20th-TFW-F-84-ARMEE-DE-L-AIR-P-47-SWISS-C-36-TUG-/390565519330?pt=Magazines&hash=item5aef84dfe2#ht_2793wt_958

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For some reason I’m becoming rather interested in post war use of WWII aircraft. The Ha-1112 served into the 1960s as a coin aircraft and a trainer and the Heinkels were only retired in 1973. That has to make them the some of the last WWII bombers to serve operationally in any capacity (troop transports in this case). Another interesting bird is the Avia S.199, it is pretty ironic that the Bf.109 eventually became the first combat aircraft of the air forces of the state of Israel.

It might be worth tracking down this issue of the much missed Classic Aircraft Mag.

Septic.

Looks like you can get this issue (and other back copies) as a download : –

http://www.pocketmags.com/viewmagazine.aspx?catid=1030&category=Aviation+%26+Transport&subcatid=188&subcategory=Aviation&title=Classic+Aircraft&titleid=795&issueid=34015&issuename=April+2012

EDIT

Umm… seems you can get it (along with other back issues of the mag) as a free PDF!

Cheers

Paul

The Classic Aircraft mag has a couple of great articles on the Buchon – flying G-BWUE, and a potted history of the type’s service history, plus notable warbirds such as G-BOML etc.

Try these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HISPANO-HA-1112-BUCHON-IN-DETAIL-RARE-/370942918379?pt=UK_Collectables_Aeronautica_MJ&hash=item565debbeeb

and

http://www.scalemates.com/books/book.php?id=100050

as far as I’m aware nothing has been published in English other than magazine articles or the odd mention in books on the 109 and He111

It might be worth tracking down this issue of the much missed Classic Aircraft Mag.

Septic.

Thanks a ton, dude. That’s exactly what I had in mind.

Try these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HISPANO-HA-1112-BUCHON-IN-DETAIL-RARE-/370942918379?pt=UK_Collectables_Aeronautica_MJ&hash=item565debbeeb

and

http://www.scalemates.com/books/book.php?id=100050

as far as I’m aware nothing has been published in English other than magazine articles or the odd mention in books on the 109 and He111

It might be worth tracking down this issue of the much missed Classic Aircraft Mag.

Septic.