Hispano HA-1112M.4L two-seat Buchon

I managed to pick up a 1/72 Buchon a few years ago – colour scheme was as per the 1/48th Hobbycraft one – Spanish AF or BofB. Naturally I went with the BofB colours!!

Did have a photo of two of my Buchons kicking about somewhere. Will have a look-see….

Classic Plane have made a 1/72 scale short run kit of the two seater, unfortunately I can’t find a direct link to the seller, but here is a link to one there other Hispano products.

http://www.aviationmegastore.com/?shopid=LM47ae27f5213f01204a502f9c49&action=prodinfo&parent_id=0&art=22653

Septic.

Good luck with that one. I built three or four of them (as single-seaters, naturally) over the years, but they sadly all succumbed to various fates…. 🙁

Bloody hard to get hold of that kit now, though!

Bought it yesterday for EUR 10 😀 Actually bought a Spanish Buchon kit first, but the owner told me he had the BOB version laying in the back and I changed my mind immediately!

I just bought the 1/48 Hobbycraft Civilschmitt kit (BOB Buchon). Would be fun converting it in the 2seater. Is there a conversion available?

Good luck with that one. I built three or four of them (as single-seaters, naturally) over the years, but they sadly all succumbed to various fates…. 🙁

Bloody hard to get hold of that kit now, though!

I just bought the 1/48 Hobbycraft Civilschmitt kit (BOB Buchon). Would be fun converting it in the 2seater. Is there a conversion available?

What size ‘replicas’ (covers from 1/1 flying to 1/144 plastic…)?

Try the Museo del Aire near Madrid?

http://www.aire.org/museo/index.html

My contribution will be in 1/32 and mostly in 1/48 scale.
In the past, I tried the museo del aire in Cuatro Vientos, but the best information about the museum aircraft I got was from private sources.
Again thank you
And I thank all the kind men that participated in this topic.
Robert

bobhawk,

Send me a pm and I will pass along to you garys contact info.

I do beleive he mention to me a few days back that he might be going out to the Ranch sometime soon.

What size ‘replicas’ (covers from 1/1 flying to 1/144 plastic…)?

Try the Museo del Aire near Madrid?

http://www.aire.org/museo/index.html

Hi Robert,
Ah. I’d call that a bulkhead. I don’t recall any meaningful data on it, nor do I recall a pic in a magazine of that, but you are obviously remembering one! Gary Austin’s (Retroaviation) shots on WIX are some of the best I’ve seen, including about the only shots of the instrument panel out there. You could ask him to see if he can get a shot when he next visits if you are in no hurry. I’ll have a look through my notes, but I don’t recall anything on that. I’d expect it would be ‘just’ a flat panel with access holes, as seen – but that’s obviously just a guess.

May I ask why you want to know?
Cheers
James

Hi James,
You are right there is nothing about this detail. Only one picture on a magazine and I was silly as I didn’t buy it.
I would like to make replicas of the Spanish 109 family including the Hispano powered.
But, the technical documentation is something scarse.
I will try my luck with Gary Austin.
Thank you for all your efforts.
Robert

Hi Robert,
Ah. I’d call that a bulkhead. I don’t recall any meaningful data on it, nor do I recall a pic in a magazine of that, but you are obviously remembering one! Gary Austin’s (Retroaviation) shots on WIX are some of the best I’ve seen, including about the only shots of the instrument panel out there. You could ask him to see if he can get a shot when he next visits if you are in no hurry. I’ll have a look through my notes, but I don’t recall anything on that. I’d expect it would be ‘just’ a flat panel with access holes, as seen – but that’s obviously just a guess.

May I ask why you want to know?
Cheers
James

Hi Robert,
I’m not clear exactly where you mean – fuselage interior? Under the rear canopy framing?
Cheers,

Sorry JDK, I will try to be more precise.
Look at that picture found on the WIX. The red square is showing what I’m speaking about. I would like to get a picture showing more detail.
Bye

I’m looking for a special picture showing the rear part of the second cockpit. There is a curved structure to cover the gap between the second seat and the rear fuselage.

Hi Robert,
I’m not clear exactly where you mean – fuselage interior? Under the rear canopy framing?
Cheers,

Relatively recent pictures here:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11006

Period shots here:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8437

Your best reference will be Robert Rudhall’s two books; there’s been numerous mentions of the two seater in various magazines in the past, including both Flypast and Aeroplane. The best reference is actually a French publication. I’ve done some drawings myself some years ago, and there is all sorts of small bits of data around if you know where to look.

If you post what in or why you are are interested, we may be able to help further (like the details of the French publication! 😀 )

Regards,

Thanks JDK.
I’m looking for a special picture showing the rear part of the second cockpit. There is a curved structure to cover the gap between the second seat and the rear fuselage.
The magazine I’m speaking about gave that special picture.
I checked on the net (including WIX with the disassembled pictures) and all the paper documentation (including the Hors série Avions Les Messerschmitt espagnols), but this detail is not shown.
Robert

Not sure – it’s possible it might have been Flypast or Aeroplane Monthly; there were several articles run at the time as 1999 would have been 30 years following the film’s release.

There are quite a few photos of it floating around in its current condition, though. Robert J. Rudhall’s books on the making of the film also had several photos of it, both at the time of filming and in its current owner’s hangar (disassembled etc)….

If you search the forums, there’s a wealth of information about the film and the aircraft to be had.

Thanks DazDaMan. I’m looking for a special picture showing the rear part of the second cockpit. There is a curved structure to cover the gap between the second seat and the rear fuselage.
The magazine I’m speaking about gave that special picture.
I checked on the net (including WIX with the disassembled pictures) and all the paper documentation, but this detail is not shown.
Robert

Wow 😮

Not been aware of how much was in this collection before, a simply staggering amount of rare airframes and equpment.

Thanks to those who posted the links.

OH MY GOSH, LOOK AT ALL THOSE AIRCRAFT !!!! 😮 zero timed “crated” DB601 and Zero Timed prop blades 😮 *Drools*

Relatively recent pictures here:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11006

Period shots here:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8437

Your best reference will be Robert Rudhall’s two books; there’s been numerous mentions of the two seater in various magazines in the past, including both Flypast and Aeroplane. The best reference is actually a French publication. I’ve done some drawings myself some years ago, and there is all sorts of small bits of data around if you know where to look.

If you post what in or why you are are interested, we may be able to help further (like the details of the French publication! 😀 )

Regards,

Dear Gentlemen,
Some years ago, I had in hands a magazine in English language related with warbirds restoration and history (Flypast, Aeroplane Monthly…?).
An article was speaking of the very rare two-seat Hispano HA-1112M.4L Buchon used during the Battle of Britain film and gives several good detail color pictures.
This aircraft was photographed after a very long time in storage. Many thought it was lost.
I remember to see the magazine in library after august of 1999 and before march of 2000, but I can’t recall the name of it.
Can any expert of the forum tell me the reference of that magazine ?
Thanks in advance to all
Robert

A 2 seat bouchon was mentioned in a thread on the 25 jan 08 by Mark 12.

Steve

Not sure about the mag…here is the 2 seater!

Not sure – it’s possible it might have been Flypast or Aeroplane Monthly; there were several articles run at the time as 1999 would have been 30 years following the film’s release.

There are quite a few photos of it floating around in its current condition, though. Robert J. Rudhall’s books on the making of the film also had several photos of it, both at the time of filming and in its current owner’s hangar (disassembled etc)….

If you search the forums, there’s a wealth of information about the film and the aircraft to be had.