By: Wanshan - 7th February 2013 at 20:02
The SCANTER 4100 has gained international recognition due to its ability to detect and track small targets in all weather condition. Small 2 m2 targets can be detected out to 40nm and up to at least 10k ft. Two different antennea for Scanter 4000, one 15ft slow rotation for air search or a 21ft fast rotation for surface/sea skimmer detection
By: Jonesy - 7th February 2013 at 14:04
So if the existing radar was to be used and it was accepted that there would be reduced capability, what would it entail to fit a containerised system?
By definition you would expect the containerised system to have its own engagement coordination systems, consoles, launch scheduling systems etc. In theory you’d need a line-in from the ships CDS/data highway, power and maybe HVAC/environmental support. You’d need an appropriate warfare team to deploy, maintain and operate the capability which would have to be at least 7 strong…likely a couple more.
Another question I have is which 3D radar would you fit to a cheap UK patrol ship to enable the use of CAMM as a FLAADS capability rather than PDMS.
My view is that a patrol ship is exactly where you need good sensors…as, often, they are all alone for extended periods and need to keep a ‘patrol’ eye on the widest amount of seaspace possible. The Russians seem to have caught on to this with their new OPV class with a stated intent to deploy their S-100 UAV copy aboard each unit.
To my mind the more 998 sets we buy the lower the unit cost, running on one standard type of mid-range radar saves on training and logistics support and, operationally, can make a huge difference. Imagine the value of being able to swap spares between any deployed patrol ship, FFG or amphib and have trained personnel at hand on any of them able to swap and change regardless of ship type. To me that far outweighs the cost of a moderately more expensive radar set.
If we are moving, beyond OPV(H), to an oceanic-class MHPC of 2000+ tons the sensible answer has to be to continue the 998/ARTISAN roll-out.
By: Arabella-Cox - 7th February 2013 at 13:18
Thanks for the responses guys.
So if the existing radar was to be used and it was accepted that there would be reduced capability, what would it entail to fit a containerised system?
Another question I have is which 3D radar would you fit to a cheap UK patrol ship to enable the use of CAMM as a FLAADS capability rather than PDMS. I know that there are older systems such as Sea Giraffe which have been used extensively? How would the cost compare to something like 997 and the other radars you mentioned?
By: Jonesy - 6th February 2013 at 21:50
The Terma set is one I’ve heard talked about with some respect….especially with regard the detection of small targets I’m with Kev though in having a few doubts about it as a FLAADS component.
By stating that Ceptor can work with a 2D or 3D TI set it looks like elevation data feed is elective dependent on installation. You wonder whether it may be a case of reduced capability with the 2D installation…more perhaps PDMS than the full FLAADS local area capability?
I know, owing to the shortish ranges involved, Ceptor is seeker active very early from launch, but, I cant help but think that the elevation data is going to be significant especially if the target is crossing at speed and is above the horizon by a fair way…a cross-range supersonic diving inbound for example.
To answer the question then I’d suspect that it depends on what you expect from OPV(H) with FLAADS?. If you want it to be able to sit in an air-threat environment and be able to take care of itself possibly yes it may be as simple as shipping the containerised system and appropriate warfare team.
If you want to exploit the full capability of the system I think I’d want a 998/Kronos/SMART-S Mk2 type set.
By: Arabella-Cox - 6th February 2013 at 14:36
I very much doubt if the radar installed is man enough for the job.
According to MBDA CAMM is “Compatible with any 2D or 3D surveillance sensor for targeting”
http://www.mbda-systems.com/products/air-dominance/camm-family/55/
HMS Clyde unlike the rest or the River Class is fitted with the Terma SCANTER 4100 2D air and surface surveillance radar. According to Terma the radar is able to provide “Track information for weapon systems”
http://www.terma.com/media/211428/scanter_4100_-_naval_air___surface_surveillance_2d_radar.pdf
By: kev 99 - 6th February 2013 at 14:19
I very much doubt if the radar installed is man enough for the job.
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