Holocaust & extermination of 6 mil jews before Hitler -Coverup/scapegoat?

I agree. This is an open forum or it is nothing. No one has to participate. I have contributed nothing more since #3, because until and unless the OP responds there is nothing more to discuss.

Chaps,

As much as this is distasteful, we should not limit discussion other than if it contravenes #6.

Moggy, I agree with Paul 178. This is not like me at all, but,I do think this should be locked and binned.Pointless and not needed discussion.
Just my opinion.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Pointless and unnecessary Moggy. This is raking over the ashes of the dead and I consider it unseemly. Therefore I object to it and will take no further part in it. I hope it is locked or removed.

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With luck Obligatory will provide us all with the answer to that question.

So far this is well in the running for “Most pointless thread of the year 2013”

Moggy

I don’t fully understand the need for this debate. Surely the ghastly newsreel footage from Belsen, Dachau, Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, and perhaps another dozen charnel houses screams silently to the world. What need is there for debate? Is it just a numbers game?

So one way or another the media got it wrong?

Either in those articles featured in the tedious video, or in their estimate of the Jewish population?

Fair enough – “Journalists get it wrong. Shock horror!”

Moggy

According to media of that time, there was a total of 12 million jews world wide,
so we would need an account on how many there were still alive by 1945

That New york times and other media are reporting on Holocaust & extermination of 6 million jews,
but with the twist that it was before Hitler.

So do you now suggest that the final death toll must have been closer to twelve million if we extend the timeline to 1945?

Moggy
Moderator

Dreary, repetitive, boring, and treats the viewer like a moron incapable of reading two or more words strung together. Seldom have I wasted 20+ minutes, the way I wasted those; I think I’ll go for a pick-me-up, and watch a kettle boil for five minutes, to put some excitement and interest back into my life.

That New york times and other media are reporting on Holocaust & extermination of 6 million jews,
but with the twist that it was before Hitler.
Now that’s a time-warp and clairvoyance if there ever was one

They would have destroyed all copies?

How?! Track down every copy in people’s attics and basements and burn them all? Break into every archive library and do the same?

Edit:

Actually, before I go any further, what exactly do you think this video is trying to say, Obligatory?

@ jbritchford: disagree this would be an indication/assertion that jews control media,
or they would have destroyed all copies of New york times & others reporting on holocaust & extermination
prior to Hitler

I think you mean ‘credentials’.

He’s a member of the tin-foil hat brigade.

Thanks @charlie, it is good to see who i’m actually listening to, and his credentials

The video refers you here….

http://www.rys2sense.com/

and here are Mr Dawson’s credentials: http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/index.php?cmd=hwr&pg=dawson

Moggy,

I’ll grant you that nowhere did the video explicitly state anything, but I think that it is quite clearly implying some rather sinister things.

I’m not totally comfortable with it, but it is not the moderators role to censor views put forward here unless they are explicitly offensive.

I doubt many will be able to tolerate more than the first minute or so, but if you and anybody else of like mind wishes to click on the ‘Report Post’ button I am sure this will be noted.

Moggy
Moderator

Moggy,

My interpretation of the video is that the host is implying the recurrence of the ‘6 million’ figure is somehow indicative of a media conspiracy, one that now perpetuates the holocaust. It’s an oft trotted out pieces of bigoted paranoia, that Jews control the media and use it to lie either about the scale, or the occurrence of the final solution.

I’ll grant you that nowhere did the video explicitly state anything, but I think that it is quite clearly implying some rather sinister things.

Obligatory:

I’m afraid it really is the typical mumbo jumbo, based on the assertion that ‘Jews control the media’ and other such nonsense.

A pity you wouldnt watch more than a couple of minutes,
this wasnt the typical mumbo jumbo conspiracy,
holocaust of jews was coined 1918,
and extermination of 6 million jews was in the news 1936

Sorry, really couldn’t watch more than a minute or two.

Dreary guy with some axe to grind, though it’s not clear what, pointing out that many Jews in Europe (not just Germany) died during the time the Nazis were in power but before WW2 started and taking 20 tedious minutes to do so.

@ jbritchford – I didn’t in my viewing see any denial of the post-1939 ‘Final Solution’ death toll. Did I miss something?

Moggy