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how low are warbird pilots allowed to fly at?

Is there a CAA rule that stipulates how low warbird pilots are allowed to fly at or does it vary from show to show? Just seen a very interesting video of a yak 3 at an Aussie airshow probably getting down to within inches of the deck!

There also a very interesting video of the legendary Mr Hanna buzzing alan de cadanet.

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By: JDK - 1st September 2011 at 08:47

No, that’s N America. Currently there’s only one Yak 3/9 flying in Victoria, and only a couple more registered in Australia, Queensland based IIRC. The Victorian-based Yak ‘Yassy’ does a very safe and high display.

Hence my interest.

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By: JDK - 1st September 2011 at 08:47

No, that’s N America. Currently there’s only one Yak 3/9 flying in Victoria, and only a couple more registered in Australia, Queensland based IIRC. The Victorian-based Yak ‘Yassy’ does a very safe and high display.

Hence my interest.

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By: ericmunk - 1st September 2011 at 08:15

This one? Although I don’t think that was in Oz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT1Zr1cCF-I

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By: ericmunk - 1st September 2011 at 08:15

This one? Although I don’t think that was in Oz…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT1Zr1cCF-I

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By: JDK - 1st September 2011 at 06:41

Just seen a very interesting video of a yak 3 at an Aussie airshow probably getting down to within inches of the deck!

Really? Can you provide a link, because it certainly does not sound like a recent Australian Yak event. Could be New Zealand perhaps, or the US.

As has been said, the UK CAA obviously doesn’t have any jurisdiction in Australia, nor is there any international or internationally agreed ‘rules’ for airshow or warbird flying at shows. (There are conventions and reciprocal agreements to enable flying in other countries and at other nations’ shows, but the local rules apply.) The body in question in Australia is CASA, and the rules and guidelines are essentially similar to the UK.

There also a very interesting video of the legendary Mr Hanna buzzing alan de cadanet.

After a take off for filming; nothing to do with an airshow, no airshow rules apply.

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By: JDK - 1st September 2011 at 06:41

Just seen a very interesting video of a yak 3 at an Aussie airshow probably getting down to within inches of the deck!

Really? Can you provide a link, because it certainly does not sound like a recent Australian Yak event. Could be New Zealand perhaps, or the US.

As has been said, the UK CAA obviously doesn’t have any jurisdiction in Australia, nor is there any international or internationally agreed ‘rules’ for airshow or warbird flying at shows. (There are conventions and reciprocal agreements to enable flying in other countries and at other nations’ shows, but the local rules apply.) The body in question in Australia is CASA, and the rules and guidelines are essentially similar to the UK.

There also a very interesting video of the legendary Mr Hanna buzzing alan de cadanet.

After a take off for filming; nothing to do with an airshow, no airshow rules apply.

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By: Ex-Aviator - 31st August 2011 at 23:24

If I remember rightly, Ray and Mark Hanna held a dispensation down to 30 feet for air displays. At Duxford, this could be measured by the windsock pole on the Tower. I think it was considered unwise to prove anything less due to the risk of being lopped at the knee by a passing warbird.

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By: Ex-Aviator - 31st August 2011 at 23:24

If I remember rightly, Ray and Mark Hanna held a dispensation down to 30 feet for air displays. At Duxford, this could be measured by the windsock pole on the Tower. I think it was considered unwise to prove anything less due to the risk of being lopped at the knee by a passing warbird.

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By: Ewan Hoozarmy - 31st August 2011 at 23:12

UK Display pilots are only exempt from the 500ft rule at a private event which has an exemption from the 500ft rule, or at a public air display, when their own DA minima becomes the base height at an airfield site, or the height specified in the CAA Permission, normally 200ft over land, 100ft over sea.

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By: Ewan Hoozarmy - 31st August 2011 at 23:12

UK Display pilots are only exempt from the 500ft rule at a private event which has an exemption from the 500ft rule, or at a public air display, when their own DA minima becomes the base height at an airfield site, or the height specified in the CAA Permission, normally 200ft over land, 100ft over sea.

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By: Moggy C - 31st August 2011 at 22:47

You are quite correct, the 500ft rule does not apply to an aircraft landing or taking off (For fairly obvious reasons)

Display pilots are exempt from the rule as long as they hold a Display Authorisation. Each DA has a minimum height stipulation depending on the assessed skills of the individual pilot.

The CAA has no jurisdiction in Australia

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By: Moggy C - 31st August 2011 at 22:47

You are quite correct, the 500ft rule does not apply to an aircraft landing or taking off (For fairly obvious reasons)

Display pilots are exempt from the rule as long as they hold a Display Authorisation. Each DA has a minimum height stipulation depending on the assessed skills of the individual pilot.

The CAA has no jurisdiction in Australia

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By: Hot_Charlie - 31st August 2011 at 21:23

There also a very interesting video of the legendary Mr Hanna buzzing alan de cadanet.

That may be considered a different case as the run where the “buzz” took place began with the Spitfire firmly attached to the ground (ie, it was taking off!). Maybe slight abuse of the 500ft rule though (person, vessel, vehicle, structure etc)…:)

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By: Hot_Charlie - 31st August 2011 at 21:23

There also a very interesting video of the legendary Mr Hanna buzzing alan de cadanet.

That may be considered a different case as the run where the “buzz” took place began with the Spitfire firmly attached to the ground (ie, it was taking off!). Maybe slight abuse of the 500ft rule though (person, vessel, vehicle, structure etc)…:)

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