May 7, 2011 at 10:55 am
a little snippet taken from a 1970`s aviation mag.
By: Jon Petersen - 9th May 2011 at 20:13
Gods teeth, that thing is Fugly! Did the french design any good looking aircraft….. ever? That thing would look at home on a Skegness caravan park…
I can´t fault the lines of a Mirage lll….or a Super Mystere….or a Fouga Magister……or a Potez 630…..or a SPAD…..or a Bugatti Model 100…or a…..nevermind!
Only joking, I know the only really beautiful planes are the good old British Spitfire, Mosquito, Meteor, and of course the Gannet, the Vickers Vernon, the Blackburn Skua. Amongst several.
Regards Jon
By: yankeepapa - 9th May 2011 at 13:22
no more deux ponts at papeete or around. all broken. last interesting planes were the Short (F OBIP) now at paris le bourget (MAE) to be repared, the two or three catalinas now existing in chili (chile?), the lancaster at paris (ailes anciennes).
concerning the “look” of the breguet deux ponts, I do think it is so ugly compare to a beverley etc.
we have done in france very nice planes, but I must agree the spit is the nicest in europe.
YP
By: markb - 9th May 2011 at 11:28
F-BASS is wrongly painted up as F-BACC. It is a genuine ex-Air France civil Deux Ponts – the fleet was transferred to the Armee de l’Air after AF finished using them.
It’s been restored as a restaurant, serves an excellent steack frites!
The lower deck is a bar.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Breguet_763_Fontenay.jpg
Phone ghere for resevrvatins:
http://aero.chaubuisson.free.fr/Breguet.htm
I suspect the aircraft in the doctored inmage is a prototype – which would make it a Br 761.
I’ve heard rumours that others still exist in the south Pacific – they were used as part of the French nuclear testing programme and were simply left there when that finished – possibly at Papeete.
By: Moggy C - 8th May 2011 at 08:42
I’m thinking they had a fuselage designer and a wing/tailplane designer.
The problem is they never swapped drawings and nobody realised what the finished product was going to look like until they rolled it out (to gasps of “Merde!”)
Moggy
By: avion ancien - 8th May 2011 at 08:32
It’s clear that you haven’t read the other threads where that very question has been posed before and answered!
By: ZRX61 - 8th May 2011 at 01:54
Gods teeth, that thing is Fugly! Did the french design any good looking aircraft….. ever? That thing would look at home on a Skegness caravan park…
By: WJ244 - 7th May 2011 at 22:16
I was so pre-occupied with looking at the aircraft that I didn’t even notice the swimming pool. Maybe it’s time for new glasses!
By: avion ancien - 7th May 2011 at 21:35
……….and the swimming pool!
By: WJ244 - 7th May 2011 at 19:51
Bit surprised about the picture posting successfully as I did exactly the same as I did when trying to post pictures of G-APOD.
Thanks for the link and surprisingly it actually looks like it has had at least some TLC since my visit. – looks like those plastic chairs have been breeding as well!
By: avion ancien - 7th May 2011 at 17:57
Well done, WJ244. It seems as if you have cracked it on the image posting front. If you go to http://www.linternaute.com/sortir/sorties/resto/dossier/06/restos-insolites/05.shtml# you will find a more recent image of the same Breguet.
By: pistonrob - 7th May 2011 at 17:36
ha ha, i had a ropey start trying to start my post!!!.
its a very big beast with a certain grace around it large size. im surprized that the pic i posted is so well known. they did a pretty good job faking it if they did as the angle of light/shadows are pretty much bob on. the pilot sits so high up and the big belly is miles away from his backside. even the prop ground clearance is above the belly line.
after seeing some of the low flying pics on this forum i cant see why this would be a fake?
By: WJ244 - 7th May 2011 at 15:38
82-PP (at Fontenay-Trésigny).
This was 82-PP 25 years ago almost to the day. This was going to be one of the highlights of a trip to France but I was a disappointed when I finally got to see her and I am a bit surprised that she is still around.
I am tempting fate a bit after the problems I had posting pictures last time but hopefully this one is OK.
By: pogno - 7th May 2011 at 14:15
To a teenage planespotter in the 1960s it was a Duck Pond!
Only ever saw one once, lumbering into Heathrow. But it was the kind of plane that once seen, would never be forgotten.
On my early morning cycle into LHR in the late 60’s the Duck Pond would be clattering its way off to Paris on a parcel/mail/newspaper run, so I didnt get a good look at one until one blew an engine and had been towed into a BEA hangar for some remedial work.
I vividly recall the huge amount of black oil dripping over the nice clean hangar floor, and that was from the good engines, the dead one, and anything near it was plastered in the stuff.
It was obviousl that the airframe had seen a lot of use and abuse over the years as the fuselage skin surrounding the freight doors was a mass of rivetted patches, some with patches on patches.
It made a big impression on me too.
Richard
By: Flanker_man - 7th May 2011 at 13:56
I seem to remember that photo being captioned as something like….
“Why can’t the Doc just give us castor oil like they do in the Army?”
Or something like that – maybe it was in Straight and Level ???
Ken
By: Scouse - 7th May 2011 at 13:53
To a teenage planespotter in the 1960s it was a Duck Pond!
Only ever saw one once, lumbering into Heathrow. But it was the kind of plane that once seen, would never be forgotten.
By: avion ancien - 7th May 2011 at 12:54
Only three, I think, which are 64-PE (at Evreux), 64-PH (at Toulouse) and 82-PP (at Fontenay-Trésigny). Sadly none appear in civilian guise although the latter is ex Air France F-BASS.
By: Sky High - 7th May 2011 at 12:40
Any still around?
By: Chox - 7th May 2011 at 12:25
I have seen the picture many times and I agree that it is probably a triumph of photo manipulation. Great aeroplane though. I recall many many years ago that I caught sight of something lumbering into St.Mawgan and I’m sure it was a Sahara, but I never got a chance to check. Wish I’d got a closer look, it’s a magnificent brute.
By: pagen01 - 7th May 2011 at 11:14
Normally I would agree with that sentiment Moggy, but I think in this case the large Breguet is actually quite good looking and well streamlined, compare it with our Bev!
By: Moggy C - 7th May 2011 at 11:10
Bound to be some Froggie outfit I’d guess. Nobody else would fly an aircraft that ugly.
Legion d-Etrangers?
Moggy