How was this missed?? Demon K8203 1st Flight Reported

hart series

you are quite correct! That is who i meant, i think i am having a senior moment!:rolleyes:

hart series

there are quite a few differences between the hart series. i.e. Hart, audax, demon etc. As far as their outward appearance the differences are quite minor. The Demon for example has an extended exhaust to limit the exhaust flash as it was a nightfighter. Hence the two forward firing Vickers MG’s. The fuselage structure is the same. Some wings have wooden ribs like teh Hart for example other dural like the hind. Dimensionally they are identicle. The differences as you would expect were specific to their role. The Hind was a figher bomber so had three fuel tanks the Audax was army coop or close support as we now call it so had one less tank and so on. The engine certainly doesn’t make it a different type The MkV Kestrel is just Supercharged and there are more around. Hind trainers were fitted with derated engines and Harts were sometimes fitted with supercharged engines. The engine for the Demon was rebuilt by skysport. Saddly there is not a supplier with stacks on the shelves! Even more of a pain unlike the Merlin spares are very hard to find. Thankfully some very tallented engineers are making new parts when required. Congrats to all involved i can’t wait to see it fly anyone know where it will be appearing?

I wondered what went over my head on Tuesday!
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What a marvellous picture! Thanks for sharing!

Peter

Where are these Kestrels coming from?

I have an idea, having seen some being conjured back into life, but wonder if there is a well-known ‘supplier’, as you might say.

nice couple of pics on TFC blog of Demon,well done all involved.

I wondered what went over my head on Tuesday!
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Huw, do you mean Nimrods rather than Furys.?

Could have sworn I typed Nimrods >.< I blame the heat! Of course, it my not be too long before we do see a Fury grace the skies:) And then way, way off an Audax and another Hind;)

Cheers, Huw:)

Also, in an ideal world there could be a nice formation at Legends with the Demon and two Furys or a Demon, Fury and the Hind

Huw, do you mean Nimrods rather than Furys.?

Stuff Legends, i want to know if it’ll be at Old Warden!

Thats also a nice idea, lovely setting. Also, in an ideal world there could be a nice formation at Legends with the Demon and two Furys or a Demon, Fury and the Hind and at Old Warden there could be Demon, Hind, Tomtit! Although I’m just wishing here, its just fantastic that the Demon is even flying no matter where she attends or anything else;)

The book in JDKs post looks very interesting, may well give it a try!

Cheers, Huw:)

Stuff Legends, i want to know if it’ll be at Old Warden!

Why not both?

I think i`ll give David Attenborough a call about this thread :p
We have so far had Caterpillars, Moths, Pupae, Mosquito`s, Dragonfly`s. What about Deamons with lobster back`s:p.

Stuff Legends, i want to know if it’ll be at Old Warden!

No no no, I tolerated it (and TE184). I always prefered the 11’s given the choice….

Oh! You surprise me dear chap, especially considering that airworthy Spitfires are considrerably less numerous and boring than P-51Ds….:diablo:

On a serious note…I can’t wait to see the Demon. Here’s to a growing population of those beautiful, British silver wings of the 1930’s.

Siskin, Gamecock, Grebe anyone?

Regards;
Steve

I want to know about the Parnall Pupae.

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Hells bells!

It must be the hot weather……………………..:rolleyes:

I thought that a Moth developed into a Mosquito via a Dragonfly stage …

Exactly! Just like the Moth is a “development” of the caterpillar so the Hurricane is a development of the Demon. At least for the sake of this analogy! First caterpillar, then moth. First Demon, then Hurricane. Has nothing to do with age but everything to do with progression.

So what was the De Havilland Caterpillar – an early Link type trainer?

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Except that it’s older, which is where the analogy fails.

Exactly! Just like the Moth is a “development” of the caterpillar so the Hurricane is a development of the Demon. At least for the sake of this analogy! First caterpillar, then moth. First Demon, then Hurricane. Has nothing to do with age but everything to do with progression.

Is it a “regular” Demon or a turreted one?

‘Regular’. There’s walkround photos of this aircraft (internal and detail) in Alex Crawford’s book thanks to arrangements I was able to make (with help) with Tim.

If you want to see a ‘lobster back’ turret there’s one on show (out of the aircraft) at the RAF Museum.

[Plug]As there seems to be some interest in the CV of the types, if you want to know about Hawker’s Hart family, see here: http://mmpbooks.biz/mmp/books.php?book_id=33

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Having edited the book, it’s a fascinating read, too, as the reviewers also feel.

This would be the first Demon to fly since W.W.II I’d presume, and only the second genuinely airworthy example of the family worldwide at the moment. Very exciting and great news – congratulations to all involved.

Regards,

Is it a “regular” Demon or a turreted one?