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HP Hermes fuselage at Duxford

Hi all,

I was told by Harry Fraser-Mitchell of the Handley Page Association that work is underwat at Duxford to restore the sole surviving fuselage of the HP Hermes. That was actually all he knew about it.

Anyone in the know about the plans and will she be repainted?

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By: DH106 - 24th March 2006 at 17:17

?? Whilst all old plane stuff is interesting, what is so very interesting about a toilet?? I am intrigued! (I admit there is an interesting DH125 toilet story in Ken Gregory’s autobiography)

I’m sure it’s ‘bog standard’, unless our friend is a little potty on airliner toilets? ;)[/QUOTE]

Groan…….
In fact – bent over groaning 😉

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By: British Canuck - 24th March 2006 at 16:58

Were the HP Hastings wings the same wingspan as those originally on the HP Hermes?

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By: old eagle - 11th February 2006 at 20:58

Flushed with the success of your verbiage Albert ??

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 11th February 2006 at 14:54

but the aft toilet compartments remain intact & very interesting.

Simon.

?? Whilst all old plane stuff is interesting, what is so very interesting about a toilet?? I am intrigued! (I admit there is an interesting DH125 toilet story in Ken Gregory’s autobiography)[/QUOTE]

I’m sure it’s ‘bog standard’, unless our friend is a little potty on airliner toilets? 😉

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By: MrB.175 - 11th February 2006 at 01:38

In reply to HP81 – I think that you will find that the fuselage of Avro Ashton WB491 was donated to Newark by BAE Woodford in March 2003.

Defo at Newark. Here’s a pic of her taken at Newark in August 2004.

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By: TwinOtter23 - 10th February 2006 at 20:17

In reply to HP81 – I think that you will find that the fuselage of Avro Ashton WB491 was donated to Newark by BAE Woodford in March 2003.

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By: HP57 - 10th February 2006 at 17:25

Thanks Brian,

Although not a complete airframe, she has at least had a lot of care lavished on her.

Impressive

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By: Pen Pusher - 10th February 2006 at 16:42

Duxford – 10 Feb 06

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By: Bruce - 7th February 2006 at 18:09

I wish I could get our Comet 1 in there for a few weeks for the same treatment….

I would paint it pink if it helped!

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By: HP81 - 7th February 2006 at 18:02

See here

Brian

Told you! 🙁

Everyone knows what the BOAC colour scheme is! Silver City or Airwork would have been much more interesting.

I reckon the Tudor remains will have been disolved by now. There is of course an Ashdon fuselage around somewhere & it started life as a Tudor.

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By: HP57 - 7th February 2006 at 17:39

Said British South American Airways Tudors disappeared in the Caribbean in 1948 and 1949.

http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/the_tudors.html

Given the amount of Tudor parts that survive I think even the discovery of a smashed wreck – which must be out there, I don’t believe in fairies – would greatly increase the number of Tudor relics there were in existence.

As to Lord Lucan and Elvis – well, the Tudors did vanish inexplicably as did Lucan… (sorry, references to Lord Lucan are a rather tasteless British joke).

Adrian

Ahh, Me being Dutch couldn’t have know that could I? :p

Another learning moment for me.

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By: Pen Pusher - 7th February 2006 at 16:33

When I visited Duxford late last year the fuselage was in the restoration hangar & was being paint stripped. I suspect they will repaint it in BOAC colours which IMO is a great shame, that particular aircraft was also operated by Airwork & Silver City, I would much rather see it in one of those schemes.

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By: adrian_gray - 7th February 2006 at 15:10

And what does that mean in the Queens Dutch?

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Said British South American Airways Tudors disappeared in the Caribbean in 1948 and 1949.

http://www.bermuda-triangle.org/html/the_tudors.html

Given the amount of Tudor parts that survive I think even the discovery of a smashed wreck – which must be out there, I don’t believe in fairies – would greatly increase the number of Tudor relics there were in existence.

As to Lord Lucan and Elvis – well, the Tudors did vanish inexplicably as did Lucan… (sorry, references to Lord Lucan are a rather tasteless British joke).

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By: HP57 - 7th February 2006 at 14:25

Lord Lucan has BSAA Tudors Star Tiger and Star Ariel parked on the apron outside Elvis’s pad on the moon…

Comes to something when the largest “surviving” relics are probably in the sea off Bermuda, doesn’t it?

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And what does that mean in the Queens Dutch?

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By: adrian_gray - 7th February 2006 at 14:13

There are no Tudors either, any sections of one still surviving?
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Lord Lucan has BSAA Tudors Star Tiger and Star Ariel parked on the apron outside Elvis’s pad on the moon…

Comes to something when the largest “surviving” relics are probably in the sea off Bermuda, doesn’t it?

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By: HP57 - 7th February 2006 at 14:00

A Hastings centresection is supposedly in Malta in a scrapyard but Karl Kjarsgaard has obtained it to use in a further Halifax restoration. AFAIK the outerwings of TG536 were too corroded to use in the restoration of YAM’s Halifax and were offerte to 57Rescue as well (Halifax use). Perhaps a Hastings fin and tailplane could be found in Malta as well (or lying on any UK firedump) to make the Hermes more complete. Pity the one in the Sahara desert was melted down only a few years ago for scrap by the bedoeins.
There are no Tudors either, any sections of one still surviving?

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By: RedRedWine - 7th February 2006 at 13:57

but the aft toilet compartments remain intact & very interesting.

Simon.[/QUOTE]

?? Whilst all old plane stuff is interesting, what is so very interesting about a toilet?? I am intrigued! (I admit there is an interesting DH125 toilet story in Ken Gregory’s autobiography)

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By: HP81 - 7th February 2006 at 09:41

the fin is long gone sadly.

That really is a disgrace. 😡

I’m not surprised though, it was an unloved exhibit when I was a member in the eighties. I was often mocked for liking it, not that that bothered me.

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By: MrB.175 - 7th February 2006 at 07:02

and the fin is long gone sadly.

That’s sad to hear…how on earth did that happen? 🙁

I remember the fuselage on display in the airliner line-up many years ago in BOAC colours and the fin was attached then! :confused:

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By: Ashley - 7th February 2006 at 06:49

Yes it is going in the AirSpace, yes it is being repainted (if it hasn’t been already – there was a delay due to a problem with some of the windows, hopefully now rectified), yes it is planned to be a walkthrough display eventually, and the fin is long gone sadly.

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