January 7, 2005 at 6:22 pm
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> Including Boeing KC-97’s, Consolidated PB4Y’s, Douglas
> A-26C, Douglas C-118’s, Fairchild C-119’s, Lockheed L-18,
> Lockheed P2V-7 and Kaman HOK-1
A-26C PLEASE!
By: Peter - 9th January 2005 at 23:30
The C119 would be great as the ones that are on offer are still in pretty much complete transport markings! The neptune would also be great especially with the red and white lightning bolt!!! 😀
By: Ron Cuskelly - 9th January 2005 at 06:41

Here’s N6884C Tanker 127 in action at Reno in 1975.
By: Steve T - 9th January 2005 at 05:40
Trenton
Peter–
YES…and I hope someone from RCAFMM is keeping an eye on the H&P stuff. Not just a C-119, but also a P2V would be a good acquisition for the Trenton collection; they already have the Neptune’s successor the Argus on show…a Boxcar would be especially appropriate, though, since Transport Command has long been headquartered at Trenton.
S.
By: Peter - 9th January 2005 at 00:58
It would be a great chance for trenton to acquire a C119 for their collection!!
By: dj51d - 8th January 2005 at 23:45
To convert a PB4Y to B-24 condtion, besides the obvious tail modifications, you would have to replace the engines and shorten the fuselage.
By: John C - 8th January 2005 at 19:27
In idle speculation – I wonder what it would take to put the PB4Y into B24 configuration/appearance (ie twin tail), notwithstanding the arguments regarding the historical significance of the original airframe. Would it be worth the effort in order to have (again “for instance”) an airworthy B24 over European skies? For a Norfolk boy such as I, the B24 has more relevance than the B17.
JC
By: cestrian - 8th January 2005 at 18:55
Here are a couple of photos of the Hawkins and Powers fleet
1 N9701F C-82A Ontos, March 2003
2 N9701F C-82 when in sevice with TWA ,taken at Orly late 60s/early 70s
3 N1365N ,the magnificent KC-97G taking off on a test flight March 2003
4 A line up of PBY4Y Privateers,N2872G nearest March 2003
By: cestrian - 8th January 2005 at 16:53
The C-82 is the famous ‘Ontos'(N9701F) that used to be based at Orly in the 1960s by TWA for ferrying engines around Europe and became a familiar sight at Heathrow.If ever an aircraft should be preserved,this must be it.
By: J Boyle - 8th January 2005 at 13:47
ohmigod, some of those planes are cheaper than my car! check out the hunter…
i soooooooooo wish i had some cash to spare… 😮
Do you mean Neptune? :diablo:
The planes have nice modern panels and look to be in good shape.
And I’m guessing the prices listed are starting prices….some good buys may be had, but it would cost a fortune to bet the PB4Y back into its original appearance.
Oh well. Now I’ve got to take Greybull of my listof places to go on holiday.
By: Spamcan - 7th January 2005 at 22:22
hmmm, i wonder what work would think if i slipped my car park permit into the windshield of the hunter and flew in one morning… i expect the little hitler in charge of the car park would still wait until i’d turned the engine off and got out before telling me to move forward a couple of feet… :p
By: Corsair166b - 7th January 2005 at 22:12
Offer them your car in trade!
M
By: Spamcan - 7th January 2005 at 19:45
ohmigod, some of those planes are cheaper than my car! check out the hunter…
i soooooooooo wish i had some cash to spare… 😮
By: Bograt - 7th January 2005 at 19:43
Well, they’ve got to go now they are banned from being used as waterbombers, at least they will now be able to live out a somewhat more graceful retirement!
By: John C - 7th January 2005 at 18:47
PB4Y for me please!
JC
By: turbo_NZ - 7th January 2005 at 18:31
They’re not really that expensive either.
The C-82 is a rare beast.
Hollywood should have nabbed that for the remake of the Phoenix film rather than the Boxcar !!
Is H & P going totally turboprop now with C-130’s and P-3’s ?
TNZ