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Bit late in the day, but I’ve been told by the airfield operator at Caernarfon that he has a scrap man coming on Wednesday to dispose of the two-seat hunter gate-guard.

I had a quick look in the cockpit. Almost no instruments, but most instrument panels, switches, knobs etc are still there. No bang-seats. The columns are there, but no stick tops. Think the rudder pedals were still there, but won’t swear on it. Oh, and about a foot of water.

Be a shame if some potential cockpiteer couldn’t rescue the pointy end.

A few years ago, I managed in a very, very small way to help a great bunch of guys rescue the Percival Prince. Let’s hope someone wants this Hunter nose, and can save it.

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By: TwinOtter23 - 15th June 2014 at 21:43

I like to think so and I’m looking forward to catching up with this airframe again in the not too distant future! šŸ™‚

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By: TonyT - 15th June 2014 at 20:08

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By: TwinOtter23 - 15th June 2014 at 16:48

To confirm what was announced at the Cockpit-Fest prize giving earlier this afternoon – the T7 has been acquired by Lakes Lightnings and it is going to go on loan at Newark Air Museum. šŸ™‚

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By: David Burke - 15th May 2014 at 14:25

It will be interesting where it ends up ! Ideally in a museum that can carry out a full restoration and avoid a continuation of being left out in the rain.

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By: Jon H - 15th May 2014 at 13:30

Panic over!

The situation looks to have moved on somewhat – “it is going to be dismantled and sent to another Museum in the UK”

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By: Jon H - 14th May 2014 at 13:02

Having had recent dealings with the airport management at Caernarfon, and back when Prince G-AMLZ was extracted in 2007, I have dropped key people a line to try and find out more.

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By: hunterxf382 - 14th May 2014 at 12:33

Anyone got any update on this sad saga please?

I’m hoping to hear this airframe has been saved – either whole or cockpit, but NOT scrappped…..

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By: Camlobe - 12th May 2014 at 00:10

T O 23,
Could you please advise me who the forumite owner may be?

Thanks,

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By: Flat 12x2 - 11th May 2014 at 19:35

It is my understanding that the airframe is owned by a forumite.

….and hasn’t removed it when asked/told to do so ?, so now just being got rid of, hence the scrapper ? or just acquired/saved it and will be removing it himself ?

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By: WV-903. - 11th May 2014 at 19:14

Main Oleo’s long since lost their pressure judging by this photo from 2012 showing the links folded flat (zero pressure)?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74093430@N08/6815927706/sizes/o/

Yes !! great, Thanks for pic 382 , tyre’s flat too, there’s no engine in it either and internals will be full of sand, but worth saving. Hope someone can formulate a quick rescue plan.Bill T.

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By: TwinOtter23 - 11th May 2014 at 17:24

It is my understanding that the airframe is owned by a forumite.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 11th May 2014 at 17:21

Someone needs to have an urgent chat with the owner to stall the impending axe descending. Are you able to do that Camlobe?

It might be a last-minute rescue effort like the Prince – that had sat there for twenty years then suddenly it had to be moved before the following weekend or it was going to be scrapped. Still, as long as the opportunity is allowed to save this T-bird then I’m sure those interested can get to it and get it moved.

Good Luck to whoever takes this on.

Does anybody have any history on the jet to post?

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By: hunterxf382 - 11th May 2014 at 15:32

Yes Tim…. had a “borrowed” fin on there with “05” tailcode.

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By: Binbrook 01 - 11th May 2014 at 15:27

Is this XL618 that was on the fire dump at Cottesmore for quite a few years?

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By: hunterxf382 - 11th May 2014 at 14:50

The legs still had pressure in them as the “shiny” portions were as they should be, so we must be looking at some 1500psi in there if those legs haven’t collapsed yet. Bill T.

Main Oleo’s long since lost their pressure judging by this photo from 2012 showing the links folded flat (zero pressure)?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74093430@N08/6815927706/sizes/o/

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By: WV-903. - 11th May 2014 at 14:20

Guys, WARNING !!!

Anyone working in or around this hunter should be very mindful that 10-12 years ago I noticed there was bad corrosion on the main legs. I was actually trying to help the Museum inhibit as much as we could at the time. The legs still had pressure in them as the “shiny” portions were as they should be, so we must be looking at some 1500psi in there if those legs haven’t collapsed yet. So be warned !!! and take a deflator cap (or Rig) and drop those leg pressures first. Eye up the Nose Oleo strut as well while you are there.

The main wheels were also inflated and sunk into ground, they were badly corroded in places too and still had pressure in them, though I would think they would be deflated by now. However, better safe than sorry, get a deflator cap on them too.

My interest in that Hunter was because it was at Valley same time as me and I wished(and still do) to see it preserved. I was one of the team that dismantled the Percival Prince years later and boy does she look nice now at Liverpool. Hats off to everyone who helped and contributed to saving her.

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By: David Burke - 11th May 2014 at 14:01

Its Caernarfon ! There was little or no notice that the Prince was going to have its rear fuselage cut off !!

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By: hunterxf382 - 11th May 2014 at 13:34

As the admin of both the Hawker Hunter Appreciation Society group mentioned above, as well as a Brawdy one (she’s ex-Brawdy) I have spread the word as much as possible on facebook in the hope that something can be done. God knows why the decision has been made to suddenly scrap this airframe – no hint of it coming up as available should anyone have wanted to make an offer previously?

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By: David Burke - 11th May 2014 at 11:02

The Hunter is perfectly preservable as a complete machine ! There doesn’t need to be a clammer to believe that the only thing saveable is the cockpit! The preservation of Hunters in the U.K is patchy at best with far too much emphasis on preserving former Danish examples .

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By: ian_ - 11th May 2014 at 10:33

I saw this couple of weeks ago, it looked scruffy but not that bad. Being opposite the museum I thought it was theirs. The Hunter is a car’s length to the right.

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