I have bent my pitot

Yes my guess was going XV – 6A but didn’t want to try and ID any particular A/C as it can be a bit of a minefield with 1127/Kestrel Airframes LOL

Thanks for all the input, I came across this PDF – http://www.air-britain.com/sampleaeromil.pdf
I think it is XS694 & this could be Wallops Island.

A search on ‘NASA 521’ found this – note the ‘handle’ on the nozzle fairing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/XV-6A_Kestrel_64-18266_NASA_521_VASM.jpg

Ken

Found this :- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Hawker_Siddeley_P.1127_in_flight_at_NASA_Langley_1968.jpeg

Looks like a candidate ?? – same stripey probe, same bulg in front of the nosewheel door.

Ken

The Paris machine lost its u/c this seems a different sort of crash.
It might be possible to identify the actual airframe. It has a “handle” fitted to the fairing forward of the front nozzles. Possible an aerial. NASA 521 has these. It also has a faired lump under the nose forward of the nosewheel. Its difficult to see if the outriggers are on the wingtip with a curved front or are slightly inboard from the tip.

My guess would be an XV-6A in USA being used for some sort of test with NASA

The damage to the A/C in the original pic does not look quite as severe as the Paris ‘arrival’ and also the original pic has hi vis ‘striping’ on the probe which the Paris one does not appear to have!

That’s XP831 “landing” at Le Bourget on 16/06/1963 I have a close up Keystone Press photo with the caption in French. I don’t own the copyright so can’t post it sadly.

That was at The Paris Airshow.

I don’t think so – it looks like that P1127 has the inflatable rubber intake lips (as seen in Duggy’s first photo).

Interesting same angles though ???

Ken

is this the crash in progress?

Thanks baz,

Now added to my stock of useful pub quiz info !

A couple of company released promotional shots.

It is probably a flight test probe John – they are sometimes longer to get accurate readings well clear of any aircraft airflow/shock wave disturbance.
They also usually have small vanes fitted for Angle of Attack/Yaw etc.

Do you know the dimensions ? Allowing for foreshortening or some camera distortion do you know why it was that size ?

It’s a pitot. P.1127

With the size and the striping I would guess that it is a test machine.

It isn’t a ‘standard’ nose pitot.

Ken

Pitot ?

Is that not an inflight refuelling probe ? I don’t think that I’ve ever seen a ‘pitot’ that size !!

I doubt it mitch – if a pilot is still in the cockpit it would either be a fireman or groundcrew getting him out.
The 2 guys might have preferred to stand on the bonnet instead of teetering on the top of ‘A’ Frame type ladders,I have done it myself but usually using a Tractor etc and not a private car 🙂

Could the pilot still be in it and the men are disarming the ejector seat? Hence the urgency?
mmitch.

The Kestrel has lost its stbd outrigger and RCS shutter in (possibly) a vertical landing accident so the 2 guys are possibly conducting either a safety check to ensure the A/C is safe to take to the Shed (Fr = Hangar :)) – or they are carrying out an initial accident investigation to check the selection of switches etc as left by the pilot who has carried out the ‘Arrival’ !
The car Bonnet (USA = Hood :)) is probably much safer than any alternative available at that time for 2 people to use !