I.I.A.F C.47s

hi,
just like a British Bulldog,wont let go,been searching round and as a incidental extra –

5-11 c/n 25331 ex 43-4807 reported in 8/06 as on display at DOSHAN TAPPEH AB IRAN.by ATDB-AERO,just gone on Google and it shows a C.47 +3 other a/c displayed,but can not make any markings out on it.

On the ATDB-AERO for Iran af,it gives 9 C.47,s but no id,s.

Of the other 5 that RMR req info, c/n 19442 ex 42-100979 googled it and this a/c reported seen at THAKHEK WEST,on 18/11/65 with most markings roughly removed thought to be operated by AIR AMERICA/MAP LAOS.

The others nothing since struck of charge by USAF,

regards
jack…

The only c/n’s for the IIAF in the book are:-

5-01 c/n 10237 ex 42-24375
5-10 c/n 19283 ex 42-100820
5-11 c/n 25331 ex 43-48070

plus c/n 19442 ex 42-100979, 19669 ex 43-15203, 19682 ex 43-15216, 20130 ex 43-15664, 2016843-15702 but with no IIAF serial tie up.

rmr

Wonder if the more recent AB DC3 book (2009 ???) may contain further details on IIAF Daks? I only have the ’84 edition (blue cover).

Planemike

hi,
thanks, i will look to another (of unfortuantly the many) question marks from way back when,all in a good cause,my notes finally getting sorted,thanks to the expertise on here, catch you soon…

regards
jack…

Jack,

Glad you have had your query sorted out to a successful conclusion – and awakened a few memories for some along the way!

Thanks for the nostalgia trip, I recall the Dragonfly rotting away between buildings, I think it was finally at Glasson Dock near Lancaster before scrapping.

hi,
just had a e-mail to confirm 5-11 was at Elmdon,came in to clear customs on March 13th then to Wymeswold for spannering by Fields.Returning to Elmdon in June on way back to Iran.

regards
jack…

jw:
(RMR: does yr AB tome give ex-ID for 5-07, pls?)

The only c/n’s for the IIAF in the book are:-

5-01 c/n 10237 ex 42-24375
5-10 c/n 19283 ex 42-100820
5-11 c/n 25331 ex 43-48070

plus c/n 19442 ex 42-100979, 19669 ex 43-15203, 19682 ex 43-15216, 20130 ex 43-15664, 2016843-15702 but with no IIAF serial tie up.

rmr

thanks for all replys so far,viscount following on your theme a days spotting at Blackpool 9/8/63-

G-AKNB-C.47.
G-AMJU-C.47.
G-APLG- AUSTER.
G-AJKW- DH.89A.
G-ARGG- CHIPMUNK.
G-AKDN- CHIPMUNK.
G-AOIO- JACKEROO.
G-ARZG- AERMACCHI AL.60-B1.
G-ARMO- C.172B.
G-AMPY- DC.3C.
G-ARIU- C.172B.
G-AMYX- C.47.
G-AMYV- C.47.
G-ALPN- C.47.
G-ASFG- PA.23.
G-AKRS- DH.89A.
G-APWG- HERALD.
G-ARIY- C.54A.
EI-AKD- F.27 FRIENDSHIP.
VP509- ANSON.
XB291-“X”- BEVERLEY.
NL775- TIGER MOTH.

in ANT? Hangar- G-AJBJ-DH.89A.being painted.
WG661-DRAGONFLY HR.5.stored.
G-AFPR- MOTH MINOR. fuselage.
G-APXX- DHA-3 DROVER stored.

G-AMHV- MARATHON.-over by old Vickers hangars.

Those were the days…

regards
jack…

jw: best I can offer is that 5-07 and 5-11 came to Croydon, 6/58 to be surveyed by Transair. They visited Field’s Wymeswold, too. No sale. Pic of 5-11 on Air Britain photo-site.

(RMR: does yr AB tome give ex-ID for 5-07, pls?)

Regretably I know nothing of Elmdon 6/63. My earliest Air Britain UK movements mag is Jan ’64, although oddly I was looking at some 1965 Air Pictorials for sale (at Hooton Park 610 Sqdn Association) at the weekend, but don’t think they went back to 1963 either.

Do ‘Airstrip’ and MCAS go back that far, and if so anyone got mags from that period to see what the airport movements covered for June 63? Or, indeed anyone able to dig back into Air Britain’s movements mag for the period?

Just for fun, late May/early June 1963 enthusiasts recorded the following visitors of interest at Blackpool/Squires Gate:

22/5/63 G-ASDJ Cessna 320A B.U.A., Gatwick-Ronaldsway
24/5/63 G-ARYU Cessna 320 Wilmot Breeden, Ringwasy-Halfpenny Green
31/5/63 PH-CGF Convair Cv-340, KLM, Brussels-Amsterdam
01/6/63 G-ALRY P.54 Prince, Huntings, from Crosby-on-Eden
01/6/63 G-AIYR Dragon Rapide, Huntings, from Crosby-on-Eden, night stopped
04/6/63 PH-MAB Dakota, Martins Air Charter, f&t Rotterdam
05/6/63 EI-AMY Colt, Communications Systems Ltd, f&t Dublin
09/6/63 G-ARCS Auster D.6/180, f&t Halfpenny Green, with G-ARRD, G-AIJR & G-ARBS.

as you say Viscount a noteworthy occurence,but definately between 61/2 and 67 as i,ve F-BHQT a Jodel D.120 registered between 4/59 and 11/67.Also 62-4460 a T.39A Sabreliner were both in on the 3/6/63.
But while looking at other visitors trying to check the year more positively,i,ve got to admit it was more likely Elmdon,Birmingham,sorry for the mis-information,but still a rare appearence,i noted the roundel Green,outer,White,Red,

regards
jack…

Mmmmmmm….

I cannot recall any ‘spotters folklore’ concerning Iranian Dakotas in Blackpool, when spotting and recording sightings as ‘Fylde Report’ for the Liverpool based ‘Merseyside Aviation Society’ enthusiast group very end Sixties, early years of the Seventies.

Looking in the ‘Flypast’ enthusiast magazine of, what was then, the ‘Merseyside Group of Aviation Enthusiasts’, and their Blackpool/Squires Gate interesting visitors report covering May and June 1963, I find no mention of anything so exotic and remarkable being recorded. Elsewhere in the magazine a Swedish Air Force example seen on airways 6/6 and two more on 11/6 caused a stir worthy of comment, Iranian Air Force examples would have sent the spotters into orbit.

How can the certainty of the first post’s question, be married with a lack of comment from the local enthusiasts? Certainly aircraft did, in those days of Shorrock Mk.1s with giant PP9 batteries, and 10×50 binocs being considered powerful, move around without a tidal wave of internet messages following their progress!! It is quite possible that the aircraft did visit, just unseen by the resident spotters, though I’m left wondering if the date should be 50s rather than early 60s? I’m sorry, as I started out thinking the early magazines would solve the initial question, then end up, probably unfairly, querying the original information.

Be interesting to see what this thread ends up uncovering.

so by those serials,my second visit on the 3/6 was a mispole and 5-11 was the one and only visitor,unless someone knows differently…

regards
jack…

I have just had a quick look in the the Air-Britain Dc.3 book (1984) and the Iran AF serials were 5-01 to 5-23.

rmr