August 5, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Sad news today that a PA.28 Cherokee crashed today on take off at Sandown. It is believed that there were four fatalities.:(
By: Propstrike - 5th September 2008 at 12:32
Didn’t twig it was a trans-Atlantic report.
That should have been an internal rant!
By: Moggy C - 5th September 2008 at 09:24
It was, after all, a US built aircraft. :rolleyes:
They built it, they can call it what they like.
Personally I hate the term, it always looks like it should be a pneumatically driven woodworking tool.
Moggy
By: msteggalls - 4th September 2008 at 22:50
‘Airplane’ huh? A typo perhaps, or have we come to that?:mad:
Well my Collins dictionary says: Airplane – n. the US and Canadian name for aeroplane
So as the quote came from an American source, in this case its presumable valid :rolleyes:
Martyn
By: Propstrike - 4th September 2008 at 20:28
‘Airplane’ huh? A typo perhaps, or have we come to that?:mad:
By: Newforest - 4th September 2008 at 16:34
Thanks for the update, guess you spent even longer on the search than I did!:D
By: msteggalls - 4th September 2008 at 13:41
Couldn’t find anything on AAIB website – Searching G-INFO by onwer given in the press reports returns Pa28-140 G-AVRP. Googling this returns a link to the www.ntsb.gov website which gives the following text…..
“On August 5, 2007, about 1100 universal coordinated time, a Piper PA-28-140, G-AVRP, was destroyed when it impacted trees and the ground near Sandown, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom. The airplane was on it’s initial climb after takeoff when the accident occurred. All four occupants of the aircraft received fatal injuries. The flight was originating at the time of the accident.
This investigation is under jurisdiction of the AAIB”
Martyn
By: Newforest - 3rd September 2008 at 22:48
No report issued yet and identity unknown. The aircraft had recently been sold prior to the crash.
By: Willip26 - 3rd September 2008 at 21:41
Don’t be so cynical Propstrike. The AAIB will publish their report when it is complete. Took them practically no time at all to get the report out when that young man piled in near Southend.
Well, over 12 months on and I don’t yet remember seeing any sign of the accident report being published.
Any news yet and has an identity for the unfortunate aircraft ever been confirmed?
Wicked Willip :diablo:
By: mike currill - 7th August 2007 at 20:02
Depends I suppose what you call ‘no time’ . In the case of that Southend incident in took from mid July 2006 to June 2007 to compile the report.
I do not mean to be cynical, but I can not comprend the great merit in adopting a mass-silence, when we could respectfully acknlowledge the circumstances of events like this, and derive genuine safety benefits right now, especially when people are feeling roused, alerted and tuned in, which is probably quite a receptive learning state.
Hey that is no time at all for them.
By: Moggy C - 7th August 2007 at 15:26
A spokesman for the Department for Transport (DfT) said ….. the inquiry would take about two months to complete
Moggy
By: Newforest - 7th August 2007 at 08:07
Passenger’s names now released.:(
By: BlueRobin - 6th August 2007 at 20:24
Prop, it’s a bipolar argument one which was recently highlighted on Historic following Oshkosh. Anyhow I think you may have already put some of my thoughts into words
By: Propstrike - 6th August 2007 at 18:28
Depends I suppose what you call ‘no time’ . In the case of that Southend incident in took from mid July 2006 to June 2007 to compile the report.
I do not mean to be cynical, but I can not comprend the great merit in adopting a mass-silence, when we could respectfully acknlowledge the circumstances of events like this, and derive genuine safety benefits right now, especially when people are feeling roused, alerted and tuned in, which is probably quite a receptive learning state.
By: mike currill - 6th August 2007 at 15:17
Don’t be so cynical Propstrike. The AAIB will publish their report when it is complete. Took them practically no time at all to get the report out when that young man piled in near Southend.
By: Propstrike - 6th August 2007 at 14:14
Be it the dreaded ‘Speculation’ or not, this could be an appropriate time to consider.
* The effects of ambient temperature on t/o distance
* The potential implications of flying with a full passenger load
* The effects of a heavy fuel load when embarking on a longish leg
* Performance factors when operating from grass.
Blue Robin sounds as though he has something to say.
I personally do not see the merit in this rather mannered reticence.
If we (active pilots ) have cause to think about this NOW, we may yet prevent someone else/us stuffing in tomorrow.
AAIB will produce a very illuminating report. Next year.
By: BlueRobin - 6th August 2007 at 11:02
I too have taken off from Sandown in a PA28, Warrior 2 in this case. I’m not going to speculate publicly, but as ever will read the report closely with a view to “ILAFFT”.
By: mike currill - 6th August 2007 at 08:14
Indeed Moggy, a sad time. My condolences to the family and friends left behind.
By: Moggy C - 6th August 2007 at 07:54
On the same weekend that a R44 went down in Scotland, also with four casualties.
Not a comfortable couple of days for those of us involved General Aviation
Moggy
By: Rickt - 5th August 2007 at 23:42
Sad news…
a further link
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1278679,00.html
RickT