November 11, 2012 at 10:28 pm
By: charliehunt - 13th November 2012 at 12:32
Do not forget one man’s “dross” can be another man’s “great programme”. Some television is not to my taste or interest but I would not describe it as “dross”, hopefully it meets others needs.
Planemike
I take your point but it exemplifies my argument about the BBC, which I will not re-rehearse here. There are plenty of outlets these days for those who do appreciate dross, but I just don’t believe the BBC should be one of them.
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th November 2012 at 12:14
Yes, with a small but significant rider – make more great programmes and less dross.
Do not forget one man’s “dross” can be another man’s “great programme”. Some television is not to my taste or interest but I would not describe it as “dross”, hopefully it meets others needs.
Planemike
By: charliehunt - 13th November 2012 at 09:43
. Get on and fix the faults but keep making great programmes.
Planemike
Yes, with a small but significant rider – make more great programmes and less dross.
By: Arabella-Cox - 13th November 2012 at 09:35
Be careful what you wish for in breaking up the BBC or indeed getting rid of it!
Yes it has got things wrong, everyone does!
However ponder this thought, what other news organisation would be providing the depth of coverage about itself and its problems, in such a time of immense uncertainty?
I venture to suggest none!
Cherish what you have before it gets squandered away to some foreign corporation!
Indeed so, long live the BBC, a wonderful institution. As others have said, it can make mistakes but overall it provides some of the best television and radio, largely uninterupted by advertising. Get on and fix the faults but keep making great programmes.
Planemike
By: charliehunt - 13th November 2012 at 08:39
I’ve honestly never wondered how they spend my licence fee. In fact, I really don’t even care.
Don’t you care how any of your taxes are spent? The license fee is only a tax under another name.
DerekF made a point earlier, with which I agree (yes indeed!) that he has no concerns about Sky because it gives him the best value for the package he buys.
If we identified any service or product by the political inclinations of the owners of the company we would be struggling to live the daily life.
By: Propstrike - 13th November 2012 at 08:37
As I have said on the other thread, I have known GE for 20 years and he is far from the nit-wit the media are so enjoying portraying. He has been overwhelmed, as most people would have been, and arguably has made some errors, or rather, did not instantly stamped on the errors of his staff.
He was paid £300K in his previous position as Head of Vision, was encouraged to put himself forward as a DG candidate, and the rest we know.
He cannot return to his previous position, at which he was highly regarded.
Now without a job, what will he do now? Time will tell. But for reasons way out of proportion to any mistakes on his part, his name will be somewhat toxic, and so the matter of a new position is tricky , to say the least.
So will he drive a bus ? Or head up a charity, or what ? Either way, his ‘pay-off’ is not even two years of his previous salary. He is a modest guy, and lives in an ordinary house in south London, but in the scheme of things, I think he has been screwed over.
By: AlanR - 12th November 2012 at 23:34
Personally Alan, I much prefer to watch SKY news, anytime.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
I do as well.
If I may go off at a slight tangent for a moment.
At a couple of state occasions in the last few years, the BBC have claimed
that they had the majority of viewers. Maybe as people watch them by
default?
At least as far as the Royal Wedding went, the Sky News coverage was far
superior.
By: paul178 - 12th November 2012 at 23:16
I watch Al Jazeera fairly often give it a go.
By: Snapper - 12th November 2012 at 22:56
I’ve honestly never wondered how they spend my licence fee. In fact, I really don’t even care.
Listening to the news though I had to laught. £450k for resigning. If I resign tomorrow from work I’ll get **** all and when I go to the job centre to sign on I’ll also get **** all. Think i’m going to apply to work at the bbc and resign.
By: Derekf - 12th November 2012 at 22:55
You surprise me with your “left ” wing views, I binned Sky and will not entertain it as long as the Murdoch Mafia have involvement, similarly I wouldn’t light a fire with that rag The Sun for similar reasons.
I take it then that would be happy to allow a monopoly situation to develop in British broadcasting, with Sky the controlling body, not for me thanks.
What on earth has being left wing got to do with subscribing to Sky? I subscribe to Sky as it gives the best value for the TV package I want.
Why would BskyB have a monopoly? :confused:
By: silver fox - 12th November 2012 at 22:44
If enough people stopped paying the licence the BBC would run out of money, stop making programmes and so there wouldn’t be any catch up for you to watch anyway.
That was top of Murdoch’s wish list and he would probably have got it but for the hacking scandal blowing him out the water.
Remember who was the very first visitor to Camercon after the election, in to present his card and bill for services rendered.
By: paul178 - 12th November 2012 at 22:40
The BBC are not the only things available try reading my link through.
By: silver fox - 12th November 2012 at 22:40
I take it you haven’t got Sky then? (or even seen it by the sounds of things)
What you describe isn’t the Sky I subscribe to. The Sky I subscribe to has decent programming, a massive array of channels including movies, an excellent Sky+ system and on-demand system which has no advertising. What’s not to like.
You surprise me with your “left ” wing views, I binned Sky and will not entertain it as long as the Murdoch Mafia have involvement, similarly I wouldn’t light a fire with that rag The Sun for similar reasons.
I take it then that would be happy to allow a monopoly situation to develop in British broadcasting, with Sky the controlling body, not for me thanks.
By: Derekf - 12th November 2012 at 22:34
If enough people stopped paying the licence the BBC would run out of money, stop making programmes and so there wouldn’t be any catch up for you to watch anyway.
By: paul178 - 12th November 2012 at 22:28
Don’t pay your TV licence you don’t have to as long as you don’t watch real time TV. Just watch Catch up channels on your computer or read this
http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ca/pc-help/2162820/tv-licence
By: Derekf - 12th November 2012 at 22:23
I take it you haven’t got Sky then? (or even seen it by the sounds of things)
What you describe isn’t the Sky I subscribe to. The Sky I subscribe to has decent programming, a massive array of channels including movies, an excellent Sky+ system and on-demand system which has no advertising. What’s not to like.
By: silver fox - 12th November 2012 at 22:04
The soloution is very clear.
Break up the BBC.
Make it free, get rid of the licence fee.
Have advertising.Now those pitiful few channels will be like the remaining 80 or so.
I don’t care. Get rid of em.Had a very informative Sunday rememberance and never once watched the Beeb.
The licence fee is worth every penny if only for the luxury of TV without mind numbing adverts, is there anyone out there who would willingly hand total control to the likes of Murdoch?, who in their right mind pays extra for a service and still puts up with adverts, endless repeats, Z list films and programmes requiring the intelligence of a small furry mammal to appreciate them?.
By: kev35 - 12th November 2012 at 17:40
Well we now know how they spend the license fee, by paying £450,000 to George Entwistle for failing to do his job properly.
Regards,
kev35
By: charliehunt - 12th November 2012 at 17:09
Watch out for “In Coming”, Both Charlie and Derek are on a roll today :eek::eek:
Jim.
Lincoln .7
Forget it – Derek has given up the debate, because he can’t or won’t and accused me of insulting members, was it and now bruggen is back with the same record on the turntable, so trolling it is becoming, and trolller I am not. Sad pair really…..;):rolleyes:
By: Bruggen 130 - 12th November 2012 at 16:52
Cabbages
If you cannot understand the suggestions, I seriously doubt your ability to read and understand simple English. And I rather think the Clive Dunn exchanges prove my point..
You are incapable of understanding the differance between A character actor
and an Actor who played the same character ( the late Bill Tarmey is a good eg) for Most of his/her career, It’s like p!ssing into the wind trying to educate
you.
Standing by for more gobbledegook:D