Ice cold at Duxford

Wessex Boy,

The Viscount looks as though it was prematurely moved outside as there remains a lot of detail painting to be undertaken. The engine cowlings were also missing.

Septic.

Septic,
Thanks, yes it looks like some more work is needed, but she does look a great deal better than when I was last there last summer and she was being taken back to bare metal!

Thanks Mark V – your services are duly noted and may well be called upon in due course!!

The current paint work was carried out in the States and doesn’t seem to please everyone(!) however it is very thick and will take a large amount of effort to remove. I think £8k is fine for a YAK but I’d be surprised if the owner had much change out of £15k for a strip and respray.

Sorry chaps, I downloaded the Times obituary on Ray Hanna and was going to celotape it to the barrier as close as possible to MH434 today. Unfortunately having taken my mother back to Stamford today, was feeling really unwell and just wanted to get home. I have to go out that way next week and will carry out the task later.

A friend had his Yak 52 re-painted at a well-known establishment in Northants and a very good job was done for £8,000. Perhaps a Spit would be similar.

When the owner can afford to do so, I suspect. Anyone provide a quote for a Spitfire respray?
🙂

if you seriously need a quote for a respray PM me

Thanks for putting me straight cas, do you remember how Smudge made them. As I believe Messerschmitt used to press out the complex shapes. Was some type of former constructed to work from or did they have a pattern to copy.

Septic.

ARC borrowed a set of cowlings to copy but the shapes were formed with pressings and a lot of wheeling and beating, plus a few abusive words,
the finnished items are a credit to a craftsman,

when will PT462 get a paint job that doesn’t look like it was done by a 10-year-old airfix builder?

When the owner can afford to do so, I suspect. Anyone provide a quote for a Spitfire respray?

Great pictures, Septic, thanks for posting. A little winter cheer 🙂

Zwitter, all contributions towards a repaint gratefully accepted! They are not cheap and as the baulk of the airframe paint is not showing any fade at the moment the owner would rather put the money towards the ever esculating insurancerunning costs.

This is true – the paint and consumables alone for MJ730 cost £2,500 in 2002. The labour costs about three times as much on top of that.

I, however, officially volunteer my time for free – just tell me where to be 🙂

Quote from Septic,

[I]I missed the Ray Hanna tribute by the side of 434, I hope Duxford will in someway pay tribute to this remarkable man.[/I]

I would hope we will see as many airworthy warbirds leading the tribute flypast with as many airworthy Gnats as possible leading the current Arrows

What do you guys think??

Tim

Well IWM’s website doesn’t mention anything so I cant see them putting any sort of tribute together? They may have been asked not too? or too busy with Airspace?

Another selection to keep the winter withdrawl symptons at bay.

Lone Star Merlin, the 109 E 3 W.nr. 1190 crashed on the 30th September 1940 at East Dean in Sussex, the museum display depicts the actual scene complete with a tommy keeping guard. The aircraft eventually found its way to New York USA before ending up in Ontairio. In 1966 the aircraft returned the UK in the care of Peter Foote at Bournemouth. Finally the IWM acquired the aircraft and set out to conserve rather than restore the aircraft. The majority of the work was carried out by ARCO although I believe the new panels were manufactured by Airframe Assemblies.

Septic

Septic, thanks for your time and your time in sharing the photos.

Cheers and Happy New Year, Ya’ll

Lynn

I can assure you the new panels were manufactured in house by ARC
ask smudge he`s still got the bruises……

Thanks for putting me straight cas, do you remember how Smudge made them. As I believe Messerschmitt used to press out the complex shapes. Was some type of former constructed to work from or did they have a pattern to copy.

Septic.

The majority of the work was carried out by ARCO although I believe the new panels were manufactured by Airframe Assemblies.
Septic

I can assure you the new panels were manufactured in house by ARC
ask smudge he`s still got the bruises……

Zwitter, all contributions towards a repaint gratefully accepted! They are not cheap and as the baulk of the airframe paint is not showing any fade at the moment the owner would rather put the money towards the ever esculating insurancerunning costs.

Quote from Septic,

[I]I missed the Ray Hanna tribute by the side of 434, I hope Duxford will in someway pay tribute to this remarkable man.[/I]

I would hope we will see as many airworthy warbirds leading the tribute flypast with as many airworthy Gnats as possible leading the current Arrows

What do you guys think??

Tim

Trumper,

I missed the Ray Hanna tribute by the side of 434, I hope Duxford will in someway pay tribute to this remarkable man.

Regarding the cable on the oleo, would it be some form of parking brake cable!

Septic.

I had to lay on the floor to see the flowers and MH434,was’nt readily visible past the Harvard, and P51.

Trumper,

I missed the Ray Hanna tribute by the side of 434, I hope Duxford will in someway pay tribute to this remarkable man.

Regarding the cable on the oleo, would it be some form of parking brake cable!

Septic.

Trumper,

Did you manage to get into the T2 hangar where Sally B is wintered, I somehow missed it, or was closed to the public? The Sea Vixen and Javelin were also notabally out of sight. Hope you had a good day Trumper.

Septic.

No ,i think the entrance is via the back of the TFC Hangar which has been cordoned off at the moment,well has been for quite a while now.
Here are a few i took yesterday,does anyone know what the cable is for on the TFC Seafury oleo leg?
MH434 sat there waiting .

The 109 was flown by Horst Perez who is alive today and refused to attend the unveiling of his ‘restored’ 109. He still will not talk to anyone about anything or about any part of his time in the Luftwaffe.
🙁
Michael Turner produced a great painting called ‘Hande Hoch’ which shows Perez surrendering to soldiers and a Police Officer alongside his 109.

Wrk.Nr. 1190 White 4 of 4/JG-26, was also the main subject of Robert Taylor’s painting “Eagle Attack” which was part of his 50th Anniversay of the Battle of Britain Trilogy.

It’s hanging on the wall immediately behind my PC monitor 😀 and in the full size print you can clearly see the W.Nr.1190 painted on the tail.

However, there is a big mistake here 😡

The description on the print states:-
Me109’s of JG-26 peel off to attack Spitfires in defence of Luftwaffe bombers on Aldertag – Eagle Day – 13th August 1940 at the height of the Battle of Britain.”

The problem is that as well as seeing the Wk.Nr. on the tail, above it Robert Taylor also shows 2 victory bars…. :confused:
It should have shown 5….. :rolleyes:
When 1190 was shot down on 30th September with Horst Perez at the controls the tail markings had the 5 victory bars of the 109’s former owner, the Staffelkapitan of 4/JG-26, Hauptmann Karl Ebbinghausen. But, Ebbinghausen had been promoted to command 2/JG-26 in early August and was indeed flying with 2/JG-26 on Aldertag….adding 2 more victories before being shot down by a 266 Sqn. Spitfire on 16th August 1940….. :rolleyes:

Here’s 1190 as it was on 30th September in the field near Eastbourne.

Trumper,

Did you manage to get into the T2 hangar where Sally B is wintered, I somehow missed it, or was closed to the public? The Sea Vixen and Javelin were also notabally out of sight. Hope you had a good day Trumper.

Wessex Boy,

The Viscount looks as though it was prematurely moved outside as there remains a lot of detail painting to be undertaken. The engine cowlings were also missing.

Septic.

The 109 was flown by Horst Perez who is alive today and refused to attend the unveiling of his ‘restored’ 109. He still will not talk to anyone about anything or about any part of his time in the Luftwaffe.
🙁
Michael Turner produced a great painting called ‘Hande Hoch’ which shows Perez surrendering to soldiers and a Police Officer alongside his 109.

Go here www.studio88.co.uk and follow the links. 😀