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Ident of Blind Flying Panel

This was on the “Seen on eBay” thread, which I picked up for £76. It’s a hybrid with instruments, but the panel itself is genuine.

The following numbers are actally stamped on the panel :

MH 1321

AIS 7261

Any idea’s – or pointers to where I can find out what it’s from?

Thx

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By: uuoret - 25th November 2008 at 15:46

With reference to the Rate of Climb indicator, it would appear to be a post war Smiths 2,000ft/minute range instrument in an SAE case which would make it Smiths Code 20RC/PC or 20RC Sec/Ref: 6A/2086 (listed as 6A/2086 Smiths type 20RC in AL18 AP1086 Section 6A for Devon C1 aircraft and listed in AP1086 Section 6A dated 1966 as 20/RC/PC with the same Sec/Ref 6A/2086) The suffix PC added for Pressure Cabin.

Attached is some Smiths information regarding these RoC indicators.

Not too sure if that helps or has clouded the issue a bit more!

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Dave

Hi Dave,

1. The RoC is manufactured by SS&S Ltd, London. Type 20 RC/PC dated 3/4?
2. Directional Gyro is a Type 1B, 6A/1666 manufactured in 1945 by Sperry in
Brooklyn, NY.
3. A/H is Type 1B 6A/1498
4. ASI is Smiths, Type 118A9
5. Altimeter is Mk IVA (35,000 ft) ??/3380 (could be Kollsman – it has a large “K” on the back)

A/H & Directional Gyro are both vacuum, not electrical

Any more idea’s??

Many thanks, J

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By: uuoret - 25th November 2008 at 10:28

With reference to the Rate of Climb indicator, it would appear to be a post war Smiths 2,000ft/minute range instrument in an SAE case which would make it Smiths Code 20RC/PC or 20RC Sec/Ref: 6A/2086 (listed as 6A/2086 Smiths type 20RC in AL18 AP1086 Section 6A for Devon C1 aircraft and listed in AP1086 Section 6A dated 1966 as 20/RC/PC with the same Sec/Ref 6A/2086) The suffix PC added for Pressure Cabin.

Attached is some Smiths information regarding these RoC indicators.

Not too sure if that helps or has clouded the issue a bit more!

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave – that’s really interesting. I’ll look more closely at the RoC and see if it has these part no’s. I actually have a Dove (G-ANAP) cockpit – I suppose I better get round to see it and find out if the panel fits!! I’ll keep you posted.

J

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By: radarsdesk - 24th November 2008 at 16:18

Rate of Climb Indicator

With reference to the Rate of Climb indicator, it would appear to be a post war Smiths 2,000ft/minute range instrument in an SAE case which would make it Smiths Code 20RC/PC or 20RC Sec/Ref: 6A/2086 (listed as 6A/2086 Smiths type 20RC in AL18 AP1086 Section 6A for Devon C1 aircraft and listed in AP1086 Section 6A dated 1966 as 20/RC/PC with the same Sec/Ref 6A/2086) The suffix PC added for Pressure Cabin.

Attached is some Smiths information regarding these RoC indicators.

Not too sure if that helps or has clouded the issue a bit more!

Regards

Dave

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By: low'n'slow - 21st November 2008 at 16:26

Sorry to throw a ‘red herring’ on the Chipmunk. I thought it might the the centre of a three-piece panel.

I can confirm its definitely not a Tiger Moth panel, an early one looks like this…..

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i199/kingpinmedia/PICT0029.jpg

If yours is a standard RAF-type blind flying panel of the 1940s/50s, it would have a turn and slip indicator at bottom right. It would be part of an overall panel. Engine instruments and nav instruments would be on separate panels on either side.

As early helicopters had no instrument flying capability it rules them out….

The performance of the aeroplane may be the clue with a maximum indicated airspeed of 200.

Just guesses. Percival Prentice? Early DH Dove? SAL Pioneer, Twin Pioneer?

As Bruce said. You got a bargain for the instruments alone!

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By: austernj673 - 21st November 2008 at 08:04

Looks Postwar early helicopter to me….

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st November 2008 at 07:14

Tiger Moths are made of wood and a similiar curved shape to a Chipmunk.

This item is a BFP not a main panel itself.

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By: Last Lightning - 21st November 2008 at 02:10

just to stick my neck out a long long way:D:cool:

early Tiger Moth or Auster:confused:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th November 2008 at 23:20

This has been brought up before, see:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=85221

I’ll stick by my guess that it is post war and civilian, and not necessarily with the correct instruments.

That said, and as others have remarked, it’s worth it for the gauges alone.

Note the Climb and Descent Indicator – rated 0-2,000 ft per min. against the more usual 0-4,000 ft. That’s quite a scarce instrument (but probably not worth that much even if it has a nice early (pre-war) date).

A good buy, well done!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 20th November 2008 at 16:57

This is a Chipmunk panel (unrestored)…..

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By: Bruce - 20th November 2008 at 15:19

It certainly isnt Chippy. Good price though – instruments are worth more than that on their own!

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By: uuoret - 20th November 2008 at 15:12

….But the Chippie instrument panel shown on this website does not look like the panel you have.

I dont believe you have a chippie panel.

….hmmmm…the plot thickens then….

Anyone got any idea from the panel numbers “MH1321” and “AIS 7261”

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By: TempestV - 20th November 2008 at 14:47

….But the Chippie instrument panel shown on this website does not look like the panel you have.

I dont believe you have a chippie panel.

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By: uuoret - 20th November 2008 at 13:59

Thank you very much indeed – truly appreciate it!

J

DHC-1 Chipmunk. Probably an ex-RAF T10?

I haven’t got a pic of one, but the Army has!
http://www.army.mod.uk/7356.aspx

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By: low'n'slow - 20th November 2008 at 13:37

DHC-1 Chipmunk. Probably an ex-RAF T10?

I haven’t got a pic of one, but the Army has!
http://www.army.mod.uk/7356.aspx

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