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Hello,

Here are some pictures of a piece of aluminum that was recovered from a crash site near Bayeux, Normandy, France*.

This ‘relic’ had been kept by some locals before they donated it to the city. Now it can be seen at the city hall, yet nobody has been able to identify this part.

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http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg232/scaled.php?server=232&filename=pict3912w.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg98/scaled.php?server=98&filename=pict3911.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg832/scaled.php?server=832&filename=pict3910.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg263/scaled.php?server=263&filename=pict3909.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg190/scaled.php?server=190&filename=pict3908.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg535/scaled.php?server=535&filename=pict3907.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg811/scaled.php?server=811&filename=pict3906z.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg233/scaled.php?server=233&filename=pict3905.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg192/scaled.php?server=192&filename=pict3904.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg695/scaled.php?server=695&filename=pict3903.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg835/scaled.php?server=835&filename=pict3902.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg402/scaled.php?server=402&filename=pict3901.jpg&res=medium

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg88/scaled.php?server=88&filename=pict3900x.jpg&res=medium

If anybody can help with this item, please let me know.

Thanks,

Fox.

*15 January 1943, Spitfire EN183, S/P William Kennedy Ferguson, 401 Squadron (see the middle of this page: http://www.saintmartindesentrees.fr/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=4&Itemid=51).

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By: Archer - 31st March 2013 at 19:26

Yup top one VC10 and as it as a fin tank I would say a C1K, none tanker variant didn’t have dispense part if memory serves me correctly or the totaliser, as an ex VC10 engineer… nice

I don’t think it is a C1K as those don’t have a HDU. VC10 tankers with both a fin tank and a HDU are either K3s or K4s, and seeing as the K3s are still around it must be from a K4. Possibilities are:
– ZD230, scrapped at St. Athan April 2006
– ZD235, scrapped at St. Athan January 2004
– ZD240, scrapped at St. Athan 2006
– ZD242, scrapped at Boscombe Down February 2011

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By: baloffski - 31st March 2013 at 18:53

Second from top Smiths Autopilot – Fokker 28?

No idea what the top one is and the bottom one is weapons control panel probably fast jet with 2 pylons on each wing plus one on the centreline and fitted with two guns. I initially thought it was Britiish?

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By: baloffski - 31st March 2013 at 18:30

The second from bottom has had me driven to distraction as I have seen it before.- Victor RWR Controller? Fitted at the AEO position. Hopefully one of the Lindy chaps will be able to put me out of my misery!

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By: woods-group-dev - 30th March 2013 at 17:09

Brilliant – thanks very much! Richard

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By: TonyT - 30th March 2013 at 16:48

Yup top one VC10 and as it as a fin tank I would say a C1K, none tanker variant didn’t have dispense part if memory serves me correctly or the totaliser, as an ex VC10 engineer… nice

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By: DC Page - 30th March 2013 at 16:26

As baloffski said, the first panel is from a VC-10. Upper left panel in this picture.

http://thumbnail.fast-air.co.uk/111103-Op-ELLAMY/RAF-VC10-K3-ZA148-2.jpg

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By: woods-group-dev - 30th March 2013 at 14:26

Cheers..

Thanks – that makes sense – I`ll see what cabin pictures I can find.

Anything else?

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By: baloffski - 29th March 2013 at 21:17

Top picture. Fuel Management for four engines, a Fin tank, Pods and HDU – VC10 Tanker?

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By: Fox - 7th July 2011 at 09:21

Hi all,

The aircraft was diving on a train and never pulled out. Both wings were torn away when the Spitfire hit the top of the trees along the railroad track. Then the main part of the a/c hit the ground and ‘blew up’.

The cockpit was found at a place, the powerplant was recovered at a distance of about 200 metres (according to local witnesses). These wooden debris could have been made by ‘Mother Nature’ when the aircraft hit the trees.

Is there a Spitfire plan on which Rib 14 can be seen?

Thanks for your help,

Fox.

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By: Mark12 - 6th July 2011 at 21:13

The ‘wooden debris’ visible in the photos made by mother nature, rather than Supermarine wing tip structure in my opinion!

Mother Nature! 😮

Mark

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Mark12/pict3907.jpg

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By: chumpy - 6th July 2011 at 20:31

A shot of said attachment fitting, (Rib 14 the inner aileron hinge rib).

The ‘wooden debris’ visible in the photos made by mother nature, rather than Supermarine wing tip structure in my opinion!

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By: Sky High - 6th July 2011 at 14:18

Thank you, Fox. With that much information I’m sure someone will be able to answer Fieldhawk’s question.

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By: Fox - 6th July 2011 at 14:15

The big question is – where is the rest of it?

The wreck of the aircraft was taken away by the Germans, but I do not know where they took it. However, it is known that the aircraft was totally ‘split’ after the crash, and lots of pieces were blown away far from the place it hit the ground.

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By: Mark12 - 6th July 2011 at 14:15

I was asked to pass a view on this yesterday and I think we can see here some inner wooden structure of the wing tip. I therefore believe it is possibly the detachable wingtip interface with the mainplane.

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By: Fox - 6th July 2011 at 14:09

It also says it is from a Canadian Spitfire piloted by William Kennedy Fergusson. There is more but less legible.

‘Part of the Canadian Spitfire crashed on 15.01.1943 in Damigny near Bayeux, piloted by William Kennedy Fergusson [correct spelling: Ferguson], buried in Saint-Germain Cemetery in Saint-Martin-des-Entrées.’

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By: Bruce - 6th July 2011 at 13:33

..More outboard, looks like the upper Rib14 attach fitting..Stbd 30008-1905

Shows how rusty I am!!

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By: Sky High - 6th July 2011 at 13:25

It also says it is from a Canadian Spitfire piloted by William Kennedy Fergusson. There is more but less legible.

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By: chumpy - 6th July 2011 at 13:20

..More outboard, looks like the upper Rib14 attach fitting..Stbd 30008-1905

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By: Phantom Phil - 6th July 2011 at 13:08

It does say SPITFIRE on the attached tag…:D

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