Identification Please

Not that it helps much, but from the agricultural implement and the sacks to the left of the Salmson, I’d say that it’s on a potato farm.

[QUOTE= F-AQZA was not registered until October 1938. As to le Doulieu, the only commune of that name I can find is to the west of Lille. Perhaps the photograph has some connection with Merville-Calonne airport, which is SW of le Doulieu, although in 1938 it was an Armée de l’Air base. The other possibility is, I suppose, that the Salmson had to make an unplanned landing at le Doulieu, which might connect with the damaged propellor blade? But all guesswork, I’m afraid![/QUOTE]

Thanks for that Avion Ancien, your last paragraph makes good sense….. prop damage on tip over during rough field landing on farmland.

I don’t think that the photograph can be that early, xtangomike, as F-AQZA was not registered until October 1938. As to le Doulieu, the only commune of that name I can find is to the west of Lille. Perhaps the photograph has some connection with Merville-Calonne airport, which is SW of le Doulieu, although in 1938 it was an Armée de l’Air base. The other possibility is, I suppose, that the Salmson had to make an unplanned landing at le Doulieu, which might connect with the damaged propellor blade? But all guesswork, I’m afraid!

Xtangomike, what is the provenance of the photograph? That might help to put it in context. As with so many of these aeroplanes that were registered so close to the outbreak of hostilities, little of their fate is known. Most disappeared, without trace, during the conflict.

This picture came from a private collection, picture was taken at a village called” Le doulieu “ in France

i think beetwen 1928 –1935 ??

Xtangomike, what is the provenance of the photograph? That might help to put it in context. As with so many of these aeroplanes that were registered so close to the outbreak of hostilities, little of their fate is known. Most disappeared, without trace, during the conflict.

Source: Golden Years of Aviation http://www.airhistory.org.uk/gy/home.html

It certainly isn’t F-AOZA. That was a Dewoitine D.338! Your aeroplane is a Salmson D.6 Cri Cri, probably F-AQZA

Looks like F-?OZA to me.

I can’t help with details – but that hill by the Sunderland’s nose looks like what we used to call Lion Rock – one of the Nine Dragons (Kow Lun) range of hills that separates Kowloon from the New Territories.

Ken

Definitely looks like Lion Rock, see photo below. Looks like another Sunderland in the background and a Dakota (?) on the left.

Thanks for the correction Graham, I’d always thought the early Oscars had a single row radial due to the short chord cowling. You learn something new every day.

Photo 6 in first post is a General Western Aero Corporation P-2 Meteor, see:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2031003php?t=2031003

Tim

Photo 7 is a DH60 Moth – Gipsy I suspect.
Photo 9 is a Miles Martinet.

I’d go with the Lilly, looking at the extra side window and what can/can’t be seen of the nose. The Nick would be sleeker.
All Oscars had the same engine, but the combination of canopy and wingtip ought to be a hint… I should know but only think it a Ki.43-I.

Is photo 2 one of the skywriting SE5s? (Bit of a wild stab, I’m afraid.)

Regards the Japanese types in the second set, the first one could be a Ki-48 “Lilly” but the more I look at it the more it looks like a Ki-45 “Nick”. The second is definitely some sort of Oscar.

Edited in the light of Graham’s post below.

Found a copy of the back. The damaged Sunderland was taken at Kai Tak 18th July 1946 after a typhoon. 209 Squadron

I can’t help with details – but that hill by the Sunderland’s nose looks like what we used to call Lion Rock – one of the Nine Dragons (Kow Lun) range of hills that separates Kowloon from the New Territories.

Ken

NC15523 is a Stearman-Hammond Y-1S c/n308- at some point owned by Gilmore Oil ( from Golden Years)

Picture 5 is a B247D United Airlines

In your second set of pictures:

#1 is a Ki-48 Lilly

#2 is either a Ki-43 Oscar, or a Ki-44 Tojo

#5 is I believe a Fairey Firefly, with a radar pod under its nose

Regards, Cabbage

In your 1st post:

Photo 3 seems to have been taken on the same occasion and location as those in the following link which also identifies it, a Stearman-Hammond Y-1S:
http://shop.vendio.com/beagle list/item/2044226971/index.html

Photo 4 is an Avro Club Cadet G-ADEH of Tollerton Aero Club. They had it from 1937. It was de-registered in 1946. Co-incidentally, the scheme on ‘DEH resembled that sported by G-ACGY (except for the G on the fin in this link): http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1402756/

Tim

Found a copy of the back. The damaged Sunderland was taken at Kai Tak 18th July 1946 after a typhoon. 209 Squadron

These ones all seem to be Far East

First Pic is a Sunderland
G-AEKI is a BA EAGLE