Identifying Parts From Possible Crash Site

Hi Paul,

These are old ARCO air hose couplings/fittings found on many types of agricultural machinery.

Regards, Ned.

Thank you Ned

Kind regards & best wishes, Paul

I should have asked RAF before posting on a forum, my mistake.

I thought people on this forum would think I should have had an anwser by now & was pulling a blagg. My bad.

Regards Paul

Hi Paul,

These are old ARCO air hose couplings/fittings found on many types of agricultural machinery.

Regards, Ned.

Paul

I can only reiterate what Merlin says.

They are helpful to me and many others in this sphere on a very regular basis, and often go above and beyond the call of duty.

Be patient. If they can help you, they will. Far from ‘not caring less’ they do care about the service they provide. There is a relatively small team who deal with an extraordinarily large and diverse range of queries – all FOC.

As for your pieces, many of those here have told you that they do not appear aviation related are very well placed to know – possibly, in many cases, more than RAFM staff….and that means no disrespect to RAFM. Indeed, some are aviation professionals and some very closely involved full time in the historic aviation world.

I still remain of the view that these are not aero-related items.

Paul,

Please be patient with the RAF Museum.

We all get an allotted time frame in which they will get back to you and believe me they will get back to you in that time.

The research that I have asked them about recently all came back with very good information in the allocated time and at no cost to myself.

It is a very good service please don’t ruin that for others by being too pushy.

They will be trying their hardest for you but you are not the only one with a query for them. There are others.

In the mean time Flypast and other aviation forums are your best bet for any info.

Somthing about Mary

I re sent Email & still havent heard back from RAF so I phoned

Mary Jane Millare-Adolfo

Office Administrator
RAF Museum
Department of Research and Information Services
[email]mary.jane.millare-adolfo@rafmuseum.org[/email]
T. 020 8358 4908

this morning to find out what was going on, Mary wasnt there & wont be back until next week some time. After I explained to a lady called Belinda she said my original Email had been logged 20th Aug, they have a 20 day turn around so I will get an anwser by 17th September.

Thats it, she wouldn’t tell me anything else including when Mary would be back. I aksed if I could speak to anybody else she said there was nobody else I could talk to except Mary, sounded like she couldn’t careless.

BTW, I re aksed RAF London museum last week if the email addy they had given me was correct because I hadn’t heard back & they haven’t even replied….

Will let you all know what Mary’s got to say,

Best Regards, Paul

They look very much like pneaumatic or hydraulic quick release fittings to me – the sort of thing you’d find on a JCB. Is compressed air used in a milking shed?

I receievd this back from RAF London.

Dear Mr H,

We received an enquiry from a Mr Paul H on the 20th August requesting to identify parts this has been recorded, it is possible that this may have been your original enquiry however I am unable to verify this as the email address do not match.

Please re-send original email sent out.

Thank you
Sincerely

Mary Jane Millare-Adolfo

Office Administrator
RAF Museum
Department of Research and Information Services
[email]mary.jane.millare-adolfo@rafmuseum.org[/email]
T. 020 8358 4908

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I will re send & let you know whats said.

Thanks, Paul

They look very much like the hose ends of the old strup pumps, and would have been made of brass.
certainly not anything i have seen come from a crashsite.

jules

I think you have got something there – Stirrup pump spray nozzles – usually missing on most examples as the hose perishes and they fall off – the clip could be for securing a hose also – Not aircraft, but a possible wartime connection – could the burnt material you have been finding be the remains of an ARP fire practise area or even a decoy site?

They look very much like the hose ends of the old strup pumps, and would have been made of brass.
certainly not anything i have seen come from a crashsite.

jules

For my two penn’orth, the key type thing looks like the worm drive off a jubilee clip and the component next to the spring clip, with the holes in looks like a banjo bolt or bleed nipple of some sort.

If you take the dimples in the kitchen paper as a sort of size reference and the ‘grippers’ in the spring clip I would have that as retainer clip for a fluid line.

All that brings me to pretty much the same conclusion as DarnSarf – some kind of agricultural spraying kit or a mix of that and old automotive. I would be very surprised if it was aviation related

They look like fairly modern ‘push-lok’ type fittings to me.

The wonderful thing about TIGHAR’s is TIGHAR’s are wonderful things…..

(It’s alright, I’ve got me coat.)

Regards,

kev35

Easy. Lockheed Electra (model 10) circa 1937. I may even have the constructor’s number somewhere in my records…………;)

A detectorist friend of mine handed me a few items from the approximate location of a P51 crash locally, but they were agricultural. It’s always worth asking, cos you never know!

Bruce

Probably cow milking shed equipment or something then, definitely old farm land which is now in pasture. The area is littered with metal, mostly burnt with lots of molten alloy all over the place & there is a definite centre with areas showing big signals. I only collected bits that I thought could be identified, the next time its detected I will dig some of the deeper targets.

Still haven’t heard back from RAF London, will post reply when I do.

Thanks for your help.

I am far from convinced these are aircraft related. I’d say agricultural.

Start finding shards of alloy, bits of perspex, ammo etc and it might be more likely.

They look agricultural to me, perhaps nozzles from a spray bar. Can’t find any pictures that match exactly to illustrate what I mean but maybe old farm machinery was broken up on site?

They look rather crude (from an engineering point of view)to be aircraft parts.

For a crash, one would not expect such a stash!!!! Well in one area