Ilyushin Il-86 and Il-96

Agreed RDC, we havent got a problem with linking, the credit to the photographer will be in there, its when you have posted photos like you have in this thread with no credit or link, it is against the rules of the forum.

I never suggested you had to post a pic and give the name, linking is fine, but this whole issue (of ‘giving names etc bores you’) annoys me because if it bores you having to make a little effort when using somebody else’s work then you shouldn’t be bothering in the first place. Anyway, you’ve agred to link, great, I’ll leave it there.

Other than opening yourself (and the forum) up to legal challenge and potentially being sued.

I said i will respect the forum and i will just give the link so people can click on it and it to pop up, but i would not past the picture each in everytime and acknowledge the author, vanity bores me and tires me vanity at the end, if there is a legal problem by pasting the picture well i will stop it, it is not a hard thing, i will give just the link but you can not force me to do the other way of pasting and naming i feel confortable by just giving the link to people to click on it rather than pasting it and naming the author or share pictures i have taken ,my own pictures with no copyright attached i do not need anyone to say Flogger`s picture, copyright sometimes sounds like idolatry.

Seen a Domodedova IL-96 in Tenerife Sur a few times, and there performance is the exact same as that of the A340-200/300. Very slow climber

i will post the link, i do not think i am doing anything wrong

Other than opening yourself (and the forum) up to legal challenge and potentially being sued.

You just dont care do you flogger, what is so hard about writing ‘copyright Joe Bloggs’ or whoever it is on the bottom of the photo? Or copying and pasting the link the photo came from?

The fact is that the photo is copyright, I see the 1st few shots still havent got any sort of credit relating to the photographer.

It is the rules of the forum, if you dont like them, go and annoy another forum.

hehehe you got upset, man i will respect the forum and i will stop URL images like i have done before but do not blame me because i do not bow down to each in every person for taking a picture, is just vanity, the true happiness is the happines you give to others by the picture not that everybody says thanks mister X for your great artistic view just to pamper Egos or flatter people.

You just dont care do you flogger, what is so hard about writing ‘copyright Joe Bloggs’ or whoever it is on the bottom of the photo? Or copying and pasting the link the photo came from?

The fact is that the photo is copyright, I see the 1st few shots still havent got any sort of credit relating to the photographer.

It is the rules of the forum, if you dont like them, go and annoy another forum.

I’m sorry you feel that way, Flogger, but that’s the way it is.

If you’re posting pictures taken by someone else, you have to either give them due credit or just post a link to the picture rather than the picture itself.

Apart from anything else, it’s simple good manners.

Please do one or the other in future.

Grey Area
Moderator

i will post the link, i do not think i am doing anything wrong but since the world is based on certain rules i will keep them in order to keep cordiality, nevertheless i do not think i had no manners, the issue is not of manners but of money; if someone is making money with their pictures something i am not doing i am just watching them and sharing my aesthetic view of a really beautiful plane to my eyes one of my favorites without doubt.

I feel it is more an issue of vanity rather than manners, i am not unpolite but some people have egos who need to be pamper, too much vanity to acknowledge each in every picture i post hehehehehe come on that is absurd.
when the only thing i am doing is linking an automatic picture hehehehe that is ridiculous, an elithist view, if i were making money or profit i would understand is like making illigal CDs but posting the pictures like i am doing is just playing music for my friends at a Party because i am not profiting from them.

Do not worry i will link the pictures but that is so absurd like playing music on a cassete at a party and dance and call each and every singer and ring her or him to ask them if i can play the music.

The picture has it`s original URL in fact it is the base, without it we could not watch it but some people get upset with that technology because their egos get hurt.

OMG, I really don’t quite see where this thread is supposed to be going, or where it came from in the first place. Are we supposed to be having a discussion about these types or is it just a place for Flogger to put other people’s pictures?

Flogger, as a general member I will back up what Grey Area has said….you MUST reference pics or quotes, if need be then do as I do and just paste a link to airliners.net because the author is on there. I can’t believe people think it is ok not to reference….IT IS NOT and will never be ok not to reference! I would prefer to click on a link, it is not the same as just posting them here.

A few more pictures

Links to some of my own pictures taken on a couple of trips to Russia.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=104605
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=35375
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=149987
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=149920
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=149918
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=149511
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=147902
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=35374

Ironically enough here is a shot I took in Cyprus 3 days ago!!! Apologies for the poor quality, but I only had a relatively small lens to hand, and this bird was at about FL340 or above anyway!!!

Same livery as another shot in this thread!! 🙂

Acknowledege the pictures author in each and every picture is quit tiring i prefer simply link them,

I’m sorry you feel that way, Flogger, but that’s the way it is.

Is there a point of this thread besides acknowledging the fact that there is an IL-86 and an IL-96?

everything depends in how much we know about the airplane and if you like and enjoy the airplane by it self.

I hardly know any thing about the aircraft besides very little i have read and some specifications that are quit available.

I have seen it only in videos and pictures and i know that each aircraft really looks a little bit different if you are face to face with the jet.

Quite apart from the copyright issue (which is a very real one) the problem is that you’re not giving the people who actually took the pictures the credit they deserve, Flogger.

Unless, of course, you took them – in which case, my apologies. 🙂

Grey Area
Moderator

So do you suggest me i should link the pictures so the people just click on the link and the pictures pop up? in that case would it be a violation of the copyright?
I think pasting pictures is exactly the same but you do not need to click in the link, it is the same thing because you will use the original URL, same web Address in both cases but people would not need to click to see it i was trying to save you people the need to find out and click what link it is and what picture it is.

I did not take the pictures but beyond looking and them and trying to share my delight by the airplane with others i am not using them in any other way.
if you think a click will respect the copyright i will do it.

Acknowledege the pictures author in each and every picture is quit tiring i prefer simply link them, specially becuase almost all threads fade away so fast and are forgotten so easily than even after a week nobody cares for them in the vast majority of cases.

But by the sake of each and every author what more acknowledgement they can have if they are making happy and full of joy people who are simply looking at their pictures and nothing beyond that? i am simply sharing my delight by the airplane in a beautiful picture and nothing else

In fact i see no difference in this look beyond the fact in one you will need to click while in the other the image URL is displayed automatically without clicking on it but both are the same URL and web address

Il-86 Vaso

There are also AN-72’s…infact theres one in the UK. Very nice one, had to fly over it today because Birmingham were being arsey with ATC clearances!

Is there a point of this thread besides acknowledging the fact that there is an IL-86 and an IL-96?

Quite apart from the copyright issue (which is a very real one) the problem is that you’re not giving the people who actually took the pictures the credit they deserve, Flogger.

Unless, of course, you took them – in which case, my apologies. 🙂

Grey Area
Moderator

Flogger…..

Who owns the copyright to these pictures that you’ve been pasting on this thread, and do you have their permission to reproduce them without credit or acknowledgement?

Grey Area
Moderator

they are links, not attachments is there any trouble with it?
If it is well i erease them, but since they are links i feel i am not violating any copy right am i?

the Images are directs links to the google image webpages.
these are image links, since the original web address is linked to the post and appears as an image instead of clicking you have the image there but it is the original web address i do not think links break any copyright regualtions do they?

Flogger…..

Who owns the copyright to these pictures that you’ve been pasting on this thread, and do you have their permission to reproduce them without credit or acknowledgement?

Grey Area
Moderator

New engines, avionics and wing. Look at it as an IL86ng.

Rgds

Andy

A beautiful aricraft indeed, the Il-96 is quit beautiful aircraft despites it looks ltle bit underpowered.