Important: Need picture of RAF dogtag

When I was issued my RAF dog tags it was explained that one was fireproof and one was waterproof.

Steve

Hi David, hi all,

because of the bad weather her, we will recover the rest of the aircraft and may be more human remains of the crew, next year. Presumable in January or February 2007. We will wait for a cold period, because the crash site is wet moorland and the digger can not to sink into the ground.

The archaeological national office have or will contact the british embassy in Berlin. We think the same british officers from the salvage of the Gloster Meteor (Pilot James Mason) in Sülfeld/Germany, will be visit the salvage and receive the human remains.

Thats the news up to date…

Regards

Nils

The archaeological national office send me on Monday some people for searching and saving more human remains. The british embassy in Berlin will be contacted also on Monday.

Any further reports on this?

Thanks for the postings and pictures !

Here now the badges and watch form crash site.
Were pilots allowed to carry eyeglasses ? I have also found a melted glassed, anyhow I think it…

Commonly the navigator Nils, but the pilots instrument panel of many aircraft has space for a stop watch.

Thanks Bruce!

I think it is possible to find out the crew member who have receive this watch, than it must me registered…

Part of the display of my late father’s RAF artefacts at Solway Aviation Museum.
You might find items such as the dog tag, buttons or badge as shown here.

Thanks Bruce!

I think it is possible to find out the crew member who have receive this watch, than it must me registered…

6B/159 is the part number of the watch.

1980/42 is likely the serial number, with 42 being the date it was manufactured.

Bruce

Today I have found, among other things, a watch with the following engraving:

AM
6B/159
1980/42

I think this is the ID-Number of the crew member with the date of entry into the RAF.
It is correct ?

Tomorrow, on Montag, we contacting the british embassy in Berlin about the research and found of the human remains and the Halifax.

Regards

Nils

An interesting thought…

Similarly as the german dogtags, but the german dogtags are in one part with two half site. In the middle is a little line to break the dogtag when a soldier was died. One half was for the unit and office, the other half remained on the corpse, a notice for the following soldiers as sign – he was always registered.

But why was then the british dogtags in two different forms and material ?
The german tags was made of high-grade steel (tank-troops, airforce, and other), aluminium (at the first time of the war) and later of zinc.

I seem to remember someone telling me that the two tag system was for the purpose of removing one tag from a body, to report the death, and leave the other in situ, for later identification.

I believe the round red tag is fireproof and the angular grey one is waterproof.

“Acid Proof ” was the story I got with mine for the angular one.

I believe the round red tag is fireproof and the angular grey one is waterproof.

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Thanks for the information. I wasn’t aware of that.

Thats great David !

Thanks for the details !

Can you tell me the dimensions of the tags?

Red one is 35mm. across.

Grey one is 39 mm. across, 33mm. top to bottom. The 4 corner straight edges are approximately 16 mm in length. The top, bottom, and side straight edges are 21 mm long.

Thanks for this notice !
Can you tell me the dimensions of the tags?

The archaeological national office send me on Monday some people for searching and saving more human remains. The british embassy in Berlin will be contacted also on Monday.

@Linzee

Thanks for your notice, but this is not my first crash site and I do my work only with the permission and the contact of relevant authorities 😉

Tomorrow I must search of more human remains. I must also stop the date to salvage the located signs of bombs or engine on Monday, before the archaeological national office can send people to help for supervise this work and saved the possible remains.

I do my research of crash aircrafts sice ten years with the highest respect of all the airmens, otherwise I cannot do this work. You can be sure that I do this “job” in honours of them. I have hope in the meantime this are known here…

@ David

Thanks for the pictures ! What mean the different dogtags ? What mean the round, and what the angularly from ?

Hi Nils,

Before doing anything further at the site you MUST contact the British embassy and your local police.

G.O.

Here’s my Dad’s.

Hi all,

during my research today I have found parts of little bones from one of the crew member of the crash aircraft where I research (http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1049971#post1049971)

Tomorrow I must search for more parts into the soil, because on Monday the located signs should be recovered (possible the engines).

I need a picture of a typical RAF crew member dogtag. May be I can find one of a dogtag on the crash site. I have found also little parts of the uniform and a litte badge in form of a eagle. Between this parts I have found some parts of gauges and instruments, so I think the bones and personal items are from one of the pilots…

I hope someone can show here a typical dogtag !

Thanks

Nils

Nills, if you have found human remains then I’m sure you should stop any further disturbance and contact the relevant authorities. These dead airmen should be treated with respect.

Regards
Linzee