Put all your articles on the progress of the Indian ADS here.
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/oct/06ship.htm
Italian engines to power India’s first air-defence ship
George Iype in Kochi | October 06, 2004 19:26 IST
India’s first indigenous air-defence ship, whose construction is set to begin at the Cochin Shipyard, will be powered by Italian technology and design.
An Italian shipbuilding company has won the €22 million contract for the design, integration, installation, and commissioning of the propulsion system for the ADS.
An additional €6 million will be paid to the Italian company, Fincantieri SpA, for detailed engineering and documentation.
The contract was awarded to Fincantieri SpA following a limited global tender in which companies from France, Britain, and Spain also participated.
According to officials, a two-part contract has been signed with the Italian firm. The first part covers the design of the ADS, responsibility for ‘propulsion system integration’, and assistance to the shipyard during installation of the engines.
The second part relates to the engineering and detailed design of the ancillary propulsion systems and the ship’s main power plants.
The ADS construction is being dubbed India’s biggest indigenous defence project and the contract bagged by the Italian firm is said to be one of the bigger ones in recent times from the Indian government.
The upgradation of the Cochin Shipyard for the mammoth project has already been completed.
Officials at the shipyard said a team of top engineers and architects from the Italian company visited the site.
During the development of the ADS design, a team of officers of the Indian Navy and engineering experts from Cochin Shipyard will work in Fincantieri’s headquarters in Italy.
“The construction is all set to start. It is a very complex project and since the Italian company has global expertise in building air defence ships, we hope to complete it in the scheduled period,” a senior Cochin Shipyard official told rediff.com
When completed, the 38,000 tonne ADS will be India’s largest aircraft carrier in service with a conventional propulsion based on 2,500 gas turbines.
The ADS will house airborne early warning helicopters, besides fixed wing aircraft.
The Indian Navy also plans to place the naval version of the MiG-29K fighter jets and the naval version of the Light Combat Aircraft, which is being developed indigenously, on the proposed carrier.
The ADS project is scheduled to be completed by 2010. It was estimated to cost Rs 18-20 billion initially. But officials now say the cost could double in the next few years.
India’s only aircraft carrier at present is the INS Viraat. Earlier this year, the government also finalised the purchase of the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov in a $1.5 billion deal.
By: Wanshan - 19th June 2007 at 18:56
I thought I read somewhere that India had signed rights to build the LM2500 some years ago?
You might have a point there … it does sound vaguely familiar …
Air India does overhaul a lot of their plentyfull CF-6 engines in its Engine Overhaul Department ….
By: Arabella-Cox - 19th June 2007 at 07:31
The LM2500 is license-built in Japan by Ishikawajima-Harima, and in Italy by Avio.
Avio signed contracts with the French shipyard DCN and the Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri for the 27 LM2500+G4 turbines, starting with the option for the first 8 which will be delivered between 2008 and 2013. Avio SpA is owned by the US Carlyle Group.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2006/03/avio-lm2500g4-turbines-formally-selected-to-power-fremm-frigates/index.phpGE Energy will provide OAO Mordovcement the first two LM2500+G4 aeroderivative gas turbines in Russia. They will be utilized at the Mordovcement power station, located in Mordovia republic near Saransk, and the electricity produced will be used to power several cement production facilities. The gas turbines will be manufactured at GE’s industrial aeroderivative gas turbine facility in Evandale, Ohio
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=21085
I thought I read somewhere that India had signed rights to build the LM2500 some years ago?
By: Wanshan - 15th June 2007 at 20:12
The systems integrator (Fincantieri) doesn’t build the engines, but is experienced in designing propulsion systems using this engine (Cavour has the same engines, as do other ships it’s built), & in working closely with Avio (formerly Fiat Avio) which builds (not just assembles) them in Italy. BTW, Avio is a development partner of GE, not just a licensee. It does not need any US technical support, & would be capable of replacing any US parts.
AFAIK, the LM2500 is counted as civil technology. It’s sold for industrial applications, fast ferries & other civilian applications, as well as warships. I expect India thinks it (1) unlikely to be embargoed & (2) easy to circumvent any hypothetical embargo, because of all the civil LM2500s out there.
The LM2500 is license-built in Japan by Ishikawajima-Harima, and in Italy by Avio.
Avio signed contracts with the French shipyard DCN and the Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri for the 27 LM2500+G4 turbines, starting with the option for the first 8 which will be delivered between 2008 and 2013. Avio SpA is owned by the US Carlyle Group.
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2006/03/avio-lm2500g4-turbines-formally-selected-to-power-fremm-frigates/index.php
GE Energy will provide OAO Mordovcement the first two LM2500+G4 aeroderivative gas turbines in Russia. They will be utilized at the Mordovcement power station, located in Mordovia republic near Saransk, and the electricity produced will be used to power several cement production facilities. The gas turbines will be manufactured at GE’s industrial aeroderivative gas turbine facility in Evandale, Ohio
http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=21085
By: Wanshan - 15th June 2007 at 19:55
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/IAC.html
“Construction commenced with plate cutting on 11 April 2005. The keel is planned to be laid down in 2007. In an information session in Parliament, on 16 May 2007, Defence Minister A K Antony stated that induction of a third aircraft carrier is envisioned by 2017. He added that a decision to construct another vessel can be made only after the construction of the first ship has progressed beyond a certain state. This would suggest a keel laying date of post October 2010, which is the tentative launch date of the first ship.”
Vessel Type: Air Defence Ship, Project 71.
Future Commissions:
Vikrant; Laid Down – 2007, Launch – October 2010, Commissioning – 2014.
Viraat; Laid Down – 2011, Launch – 2014, Commissioning – 2017.
By: Unicorn - 15th June 2007 at 10:50
Indigenous Air Craft Carrier – Air Defence Ship – To Be Launched By October 2010: Cochin Shipyards
The country’s first indigenous manufactured Air Defence Ship (ADS) will be launched by October, 2010, as per the Phase I contract signed by its manufacturer Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL) with the Defence Ministry.
A media release does not reality make.
I cannot see it being launched in three years.
I may be wrong, but it seems unlikely.
Unicorn
By: swerve - 15th June 2007 at 09:42
Ja, license assembly by Italy in no way insulates the user from US sanctions because they can always deny made in US parts and technical support. I think
people are misinterpreting the article, the engines will be made in US surely no
reason why system integrator needs to build it.but anyway, IN seems to have decided to trust the US for a while – all the P17 ships have twin LM2500 engines and Renk(germany) gearboxes.
The systems integrator (Fincantieri) doesn’t build the engines, but is experienced in designing propulsion systems using this engine (Cavour has the same engines, as do other ships it’s built), & in working closely with Avio (formerly Fiat Avio) which builds (not just assembles) them in Italy. BTW, Avio is a development partner of GE, not just a licensee. It does not need any US technical support, & would be capable of replacing any US parts.
AFAIK, the LM2500 is counted as civil technology. It’s sold for industrial applications, fast ferries & other civilian applications, as well as warships. I expect India thinks it (1) unlikely to be embargoed & (2) easy to circumvent any hypothetical embargo, because of all the civil LM2500s out there.
By: WisePanda - 15th June 2007 at 09:05
Ja, license assembly by Italy in no way insulates the user from US sanctions because they can always deny made in US parts and technical support. I think
people are misinterpreting the article, the engines will be made in US surely no
reason why system integrator needs to build it.
but anyway, IN seems to have decided to trust the US for a while – all the P17 ships have twin LM2500 engines and Renk(germany) gearboxes.
By: Ja Worsley - 14th June 2007 at 13:18
I woinder if this is an attempt to get around the incredibly tight control that the US has on it’s military hardware. Having Italian built LM’s means that the US won’t have as much control over what India does with these engines. It’s just like the Libyans buying the AB Hueys.
By: Jonesy - 14th June 2007 at 06:45
Italian engines ????:confused:
I thought GE LMS series is going to power the ADS…
Yup the power plant selected is the LM2500 – just its the FIAT license built version.
By: cinciboy - 14th June 2007 at 05:01
Italian engines ????:confused:
I thought GE LMS series is going to power the ADS…
By: Srirangan - 8th June 2007 at 04:18
Indigenous Air Craft Carrier – Air Defence Ship – To Be Launched By October 2010: Cochin Shipyards
The country’s first indigenous manufactured Air Defence Ship (ADS) will be launched by October, 2010, as per the Phase I contract signed by its manufacturer Cochin Shipyard Ltd (CSL) with the Defence Ministry.
The contract, covering the construction of the ADS till its launch, was signed on May 12 by CSL Executive Director (Aircraft Carrier Project) K K Sukumaran and the Defence Joint Secretary (MS), Cochin Shipyards Limited sources told UNI here today.
“The vessel is scheduled to be launched by 2010. Design work on the project is in progress and fabrication of hull blocks has already started,” they said.
With the launching of the ship, almost 80 per cent of the work on the ADS would be over. The remaining work would be contracted afterwards, the sources added.
However, they declined to confirm reports that the ADS project, which would catapult India into a select club of countries having this capability, would cost about Rs 3,000 crore.
“The cost is to be announced by the Indian Navy,” they added.
Asked if the CSL was being over optimistic in promising to launch the ADS by 2010, the sources said “our workers and sub-contractors are confident that we will be able to do it.”
Several modernization measures needed at the CSL for the ADS project, including installation of a 300 tonne crane, a special paint coating shop and a CNC plasma cutting machine, were already in place. A few more facilities required would be in place soon, they said.
http://www.india-defence.com/reports-3282
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