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INS Vikramaditya delayed until 2011!

The Moscow Times is reporting that the INS Vikramaditya won’t be ready until 2011! According to the article they grossly underestimated the complexity of the reconstruction? (now thats a surprise!) Regardless, the manager of the ship yard has been fired and a long delay is now a given…..:eek: 😮 😮

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http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2007/08/02/047.html

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By: SOC - 20th April 2008 at 20:46

[color=red]Time to start a new thread for this topic.[/color]

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By: broncho - 20th April 2008 at 11:23

Courtesy SNaik at BR. Apr 2008
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/snake65/sevmash_ru.jpg

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By: Arabella-Cox - 17th April 2008 at 08:33

Well, the light bulb went off just as I hit the send button……..I just saw the twin tails and thought Su-35???

Nah. Twin-seated Su-35 exists, sure, but it has been pretty silent around this version for a while.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th April 2008 at 23:06

Maybe because these are Chinese Flankers :rolleyes: Su-30MKK version.

Well, the light bulb went off just as I hit the send button……..I just saw the twin tails and thought Su-35???

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By: Gollevainen - 16th April 2008 at 18:43

Based on the models, A Fregat atop the Cake Stand and Podberezovik.

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By: Victor - 16th April 2008 at 15:46

What radars will the Vikramaditya get?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th April 2008 at 12:24

The radome is painted like a Chinese Flanker?:rolleyes:

Maybe because these are Chinese Flankers :rolleyes: Su-30MKK version.

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By: Fedaykin - 15th April 2008 at 20:28

A couple of “new” pics of the Vikramaditya models

http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/p1000410_sm.jpg
http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/p1000411_sm.jpg

More Russian naval pics here

Nope those pictures have been around for a few a long time as well.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2008 at 17:08

Want some cheese with that?

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits_pages/maks2003_files/su-30mkk_01.jpg
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits_pages/maks2003_files/sukhoi-3.jpg
http://www.ausairpower.net/KnAAPO-Su-30MKK-1.jpg

The radome is painted like a Chinese Flanker?:rolleyes:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2008 at 16:56

This seems to be usual practice for MiG in recent years. Mig29OVT also maid first flight baremetal. On the other hand, Sukhoi’s planes are always painted.

Want some cheese with that?

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits_pages/maks2003_files/su-30mkk_01.jpg
http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits_pages/maks2003_files/sukhoi-3.jpg
http://www.ausairpower.net/KnAAPO-Su-30MKK-1.jpg

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2008 at 16:45

Funny, on how the Russian seem to go with very large islands vs Western Types? Interesting camo on the Mig-29K’s…..:rolleyes:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th April 2008 at 16:24

not sure if it’s a repost…

http://seipankoji.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/25/img_9551_sm_2.jpg

http://en.novayagazeta.ru/ai/article.81/pics.2.jpg

Yes, I posted them some months ago and I believe someone else did before that…………does anyone have any new Pics???

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By: Victor - 15th April 2008 at 16:24

A couple of “new” pics of the Vikramaditya models

http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/p1000410_sm.jpg
http://pilot.strizhi.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/p1000411_sm.jpg

More Russian naval pics here

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By: Stonewall - 15th April 2008 at 08:52

not sure if it’s a repost…

http://seipankoji.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/25/img_9551_sm_2.jpg

http://en.novayagazeta.ru/ai/article.81/pics.2.jpg

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By: Arabella-Cox - 13th April 2008 at 23:13

It’s about use of CAD in designing necessary scaffolds:diablo:

Still very interesting and shows more drawing of the Indian Carrier nonetheless………..

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By: snake65 - 13th April 2008 at 23:06

a friend found this polish site with some explanations about the changes that will be applyed to Gorshkov
http://www.designnews.pl/programy1205.php4?art=502

Unfortunately I do not understand polish:confused:

It’s about use of CAD in designing necessary scaffolds:diablo:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 12th April 2008 at 21:29

Lol…Mig should hire you:D

Maybe they should………;)

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By: Stonewall - 12th April 2008 at 17:26

a friend found this polish site with some explanations about the changes that will be applyed to Gorshkov
http://www.designnews.pl/programy1205.php4?art=502

Unfortunately I do not understand polish:confused:

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By: Arabella-Cox - 26th March 2008 at 11:19

Generally even on a first flight an aircraft will have some kind of paint job, if for no other reason than for publicity photos; The only example of a fighter making it’s first flight ‘naked’ that springs to mind is the Sea Harrier FRS1 in 1978. Positive press is always an important part of any arms programme and it feels like a missed opportunity here on the part of the Russian firm. Perhaps they are used to the Soviet way, and publicity photos are still a bit strange to them unlike their western counterparts.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germany—Air/Eurofighter-EF-2000-Typhoon/1280133/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK—Air/Eurofighter-EF-2000-Typhoon/1213004/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/UK—Air/BAE-Systems-Hawk/1219264/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA—Air/Lockheed-Martin-F-22A/1331221/L/

Seems they are in good company…

If you’re thinking of this as a special publicity occasion for the MiG-29K project, then perhaps it is a bit unusual, after all the photos above do not show the first airframes off the production line for the respective programmes. However the examples prove that it’s nothing unusual, let alone technically ‘wrong’, even in the West.

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By: Gollevainen - 26th March 2008 at 09:48

Paint isen’t free nor is the paintjob…

But then again should we be arguing more about the actual aircrafts performance which actually does matter rather than its coloursceme? The MiGs could be painted pink for all I care, still it wouldn’t affect on its actual capability.

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