September 14, 2007 at 9:49 am
A friend of mine (Julian Waterfield) has asked me to post some old photographs that belonged to his grandfather on this forum. He hopes to find out as much as possible about them, including location/s, aircraft types etc – anything at all. The pictures carry no dates or details on the reverse except that they were processed by Sukh Raj Bros. in Peshawar. His grandfather is one of the three gentlemen posing in front of the airliner.
Over to you…!
Detail from the above image:
Ta,
Davski
By: Ant.H - 5th October 2007 at 15:57
Presuming all the bits are from the same machine, the twisted pile of aeroplane looks very much like a Wapati.
Some very, very interesting pictures, they’re good to see.
By: John Aeroclub - 5th October 2007 at 15:56
A couple more pictures (sorry, haven’t quite got used to posting pictures yet!) from the same source. The first shows what looks like a pile of twisted aeroplane, the second shows what I assume could be the Vice Regal alighting the Trimotor…
Dav’
The mangled parts look like a Wapiti.
John
By: davski - 5th October 2007 at 15:32
A couple more pictures (sorry, haven’t quite got used to posting pictures yet!) from the same source. The first shows what looks like a pile of twisted aeroplane, the second shows what I assume could be the Vice Regal alighting the Trimotor…
Dav’
By: JDK - 15th September 2007 at 06:20
The “Fokker” is an Avro Ten ( note the Lynx engines) and quite likely the Viceroy’s aeroplane VT-ACT.
John
Hi John,
See my post #10. Having now gone through the Indian civil reg for the period, I’m reasonably certain that the colour scheme and VT-__T combination can only be VT-ACT. (Din’t notice the engines though!)
Cheers
By: 25deg south - 14th September 2007 at 18:32
It’s a header tank, usually found with the extra rad under the nose.
John
Thanks John, I was puzzling fuel system not coolant- that fits perfectly.
By: John Aeroclub - 14th September 2007 at 18:07
A friend of mine (Julian Waterfield) has asked me to post some old photographs that belonged to his grandfather on this forum. He hopes to find out as much as possible about them, including location/s, aircraft types etc – anything at all. The pictures carry no dates or details on the reverse except that they were processed by Sukh Raj Bros. in Peshawar. His grandfather is one of the three gentlemen posing in front of the airliner.
Over to you…!
Detail from the above image:
Ta,
Davski
The “Fokker” is an Avro Ten ( note the Lynx engines) and quite likely the Viceroy’s aeroplane VT-ACT.
John
By: John Aeroclub - 14th September 2007 at 18:00
On the lower shots of the Bristol Fighter,does anybody know for sure what that object is, up on the left hand side of the cabane, that looks like an overgrown vent pipe?
It’s a header tank, usually found with the extra rad under the nose.
John
By: Resmoroh - 14th September 2007 at 15:40
As a possible location at Kohat may be a bit far south. The shadows under the a/c indicate the sun is fairly high, and to the left of the centre-line. Therefore the shot was probably taken between, say, 1000 and 1400 local time. If so then the a/c must have been pointing between, say 330 degs and 030 degs. There’s some fairly impressive mountain type stuff not too far off the end of the runway!! We might be looking at somewhere further “Up The Khyber Pass”? Parachinar, or Thal, maybe? Where is Jagan when we need him?
Rgds
Resmoroh
By: 25deg south - 14th September 2007 at 13:14
On the lower shots of the Bristol Fighter,does anybody know for sure what that object is, up on the left hand side of the cabane, that looks like an overgrown vent pipe?
By: JDK - 14th September 2007 at 13:06
Ta. The ‘must not guess’ was a note to self on my stab in the dark on the type, and I too had read the label later…
OK, smart money has the Fokker as an Avro 618 ‘Ten’ a licence built Fokker (as smartly pointed out by Malcolm) VT-ACT (We can see the VT-__T in the photo) which was the Indian Vice-Regal chariot for Lord Willingdon(?) (when it was replaced) and perhaps earlier VRs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeman_Freeman-Thomas,_1st_Marquess_of_Willingdon
Looks confirmed here:
http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac5/ROW%20Asia/VT-ACT.html
By: steve_p - 14th September 2007 at 12:55
The second Brisfit (F4914) is another 20 Squadron example according to the appropriate Air Britain register. Location? A calculated guess says Kohat.
Best wishes
Steve P
By: steve_p - 14th September 2007 at 12:08
M u s t n o t g u e s s…
No need to James. It has “City of Delhi” painted underneath the Imperial Airways logo. 😀
Best wishes
Steve P
By: JDK - 14th September 2007 at 11:35
M u s t n o t g u e s s…
Agreed on the DH-66, and it looks like ‘City of Delhi’, going by this shot here of another Imperial airways example:

From here:
http://www.oldcambrians.com/Nicholson.html
This page:
http://www.imperial-airways.com/De_havilland_dh66_hercules.html
Says:
The prototype flew on 30th September 1926 following receipt of an order for five aircraft from Imperial Airways. Such was the speed and comparative simplicity of procedures in those days that the prototype carried out acceptance flights, took part in some crew training and was delivered to Cairo by mid-December. An inaugural flight between Croydon and India left the UK on 27th December and arrived in Delhi on 8th January 1927.
A bit further, here’s another shot showing the earlier open cockpit.

From:
http://www.historyofaircargo.com/i–DH66-City-of-Cairo.-British-Airways-M.html
By: davski - 14th September 2007 at 11:05
Thanks guys – keep it coming!!
By: 25deg south - 14th September 2007 at 10:55
I’m going for DH.66 for the third one.
Best wishes
Steve P
I think that’s a safe bet 🙂
By: steve_p - 14th September 2007 at 10:38
I’m going for DH.66 for the third one.
Best wishes
Steve P
By: Malcolm McKay - 14th September 2007 at 10:37
The first Brisfit would, I suspect, be a 20 Squadron aircraft which (obviously) did serve in India. I think the other is a 5 Squadron aircraft. The Fokker may actually be an Avro licence built version.
But I am no expert here.
By: JDK - 14th September 2007 at 10:16
Bristol Fighters (first and last) Fokker Trimotor, ‘VT-‘ being Indian civil registration, and from memory an Armstrong Withworth airliner… Um… I’m sure someone (better) will be along shortly.
You need Jagan, probably, for background info.