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Interesting 1946/47 photo of Sally B

This rather interesting photo was recently released by the US National Archives (photo ref 342-C-K-004851_001) and shows a line-up of some very interesting types at Wright Field, Ohio. Aside from B-25 and B-17 we have Bell XS-1, two B-29s, a step-screen C-46E, C-82 Packet, C-54, Republic XF-12, YC-97 and a C-74 Globemaster at the end of the line.

Line-up

Probably of most interest to British enthusiasts is ‘Sally B’, second in line, complete with those weird wing-tip gun pods which were initially plain pods (presumably for aerodynamic study) but later the RH/stbd pod was modified to be manned and manually operated (or “inhabited” to use the period parlance) while the LH/port pod was a remote-sighted barbette.

Sally B

The photo is obviously pre-October 1947 as all aircraft (on which it’s visible) carry the ‘USAAF’ star and bar; also just visible written on the original on the placard in front of the B-25 is the script, “ARMY DESIGNATION B-25” followed by “MANUFACTURER NORTH AMERICAN”. So pre-USAF (pre- 18 September 1947).

 

But the date of the photo is really dictated by the presence of the Bell XS-1 and its mother ship. The XS-1 is devoid of national markings and thus seen during its trial period with Bell and pre-handover to the USAAF. And since the XS-1s went to Muroc AAF where they gained star and bar markings, they would not be seen again on the east coast without their national markings.

 

So this now depends on whether this is the #1 or the #2 XS-1; #1 made its last flight at Pinecastle AAF on 6 March 1946, was taken back to Bell for rework and departed to Muroc as an underslung B-29 load, on 5 April 1947. #2 meanwhile had been delivered to Muroc by B-29 on 7 October 1946 and made its first flight there on 11 October.

 

This puts the Sally B photo at somewhere between 19 January 1946 (the first XS-1 flight with the B-29, shortly after roll-out) and either 5 April 1947 if it’s the #1 XS-1 in the photo; or between 19 January 1946 and 7 October 1946 if it’s the #2. (the #3 XS-1 had a different, unbraced canopy and was never painted orange).

 

Can anyone pin it down further?

 

 

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By: Zac Yates - 31st December 2023 at 22:21

How wonderful, thank you very much for sharing that! (my apologies to all for derailing the thread)

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By: Sabrejet - 30th December 2023 at 22:00

There are some lovely colour XF-12 photos here:

https://edan.si.edu/slideshow/viewer/?eadrefid=NASM.XXXX.0356_ref1343

 

 

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By: Zac Yates - 30th December 2023 at 21:30

Thank you, I shall go hunt some Rainbows!

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By: Sabrejet - 29th December 2023 at 22:55

I have seen some: same style of name board & taken at Wright Patterson. I think they may be in the Graham White R-4360 book.

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By: Zac Yates - 29th December 2023 at 21:11

Without wishing to derail the thread (but being unable to contain my curiosity): are there other photos with/of the XF-12 from this set/date?

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By: adrian_gray - 27th December 2023 at 18:41

Hmm. Wonder which Fort I have muddled her up with, then? Thanks, gents.

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By: Sabrejet - 27th December 2023 at 16:02

Sally B went circuitously from factory to Nashville on 30 June 1945 for mods; from there direct to Wright Field on 12 November 1945 until 1950.

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By: hypersonic - 27th December 2023 at 13:08

I can’t speak for Pink Lady. But Sally B has a USAAF D/D of 19 Jun 1945 – just to late for WWII.

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By: adrian_gray - 27th December 2023 at 12:54

I’ve messaged them on FB and emailed as well. Will be interesting to see what sort of response I get. I believe some pretty poor photos of the pod set-up have been seen in Flypast back in the day but nothing of this quality.

Do I recall that someone turned up evidence, and a photo in warpaint, that Sally-B had actually made it to Europe in time to get to an operational station by VE-Day, or am I confusing her with another preserved Fortress – maybe Pink Lady?

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By: hypersonic - 26th December 2023 at 14:46

Maybe Elly and the team at Duxford would be interested to see these photo’s.

This part of Sally B’s history is not that well known.

In just over four decades of supporting Sally B I have heard a brief mention but never seen a photograph. 

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By: trumper - 26th December 2023 at 11:46

That’s brilliant ,terrific stuff.

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By: Sabrejet - 26th December 2023 at 09:37

I’m not sure about the team but I did see a reference elsewhere saying the image was mid-fifties, which is nearly a decade out.

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By: adrian_gray - 26th December 2023 at 09:17

No, but thank you for sharing that with us! I’m assuming that the Sally B team have a social media presence,  so someone can bring this to their attention?

Currently I’m in my phone,  which won’t let zoom in, but I suspect that the original image is a 5″x4″ transparency (probably Kodachrome), even with the aperture needed for K14, in the bright light here it should be stopped down enough to be sharp deep into the image. Really looking forward to opening it on a bigger screen!

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