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Interesting training hulk.

Hi,

I’ve posted this here as I believe the aircraft is vintage, perhaps a Cougar, Banshee or something similar.
Does anyone know the history of this aircraft or more importantly what happened to it. Looks like the seats have fired.

Thanks.

http://filebeam.com/f9f47b9f67e244c3764aac01b934d799.jpg

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By: Linrey - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

A quick Google suggests a 2 seat US Navy F9F Cougar 🙂

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By: Nashio966 - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

i was inclined at first to say its a voodoo but the wing intake is too far forward for the F-101

looks almost like a two seat skyray, i know its on the edge of my tongue, but i cant quite finger it

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By: bms44 - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

Interesting training hulk.

It is a Grumman Cougar F9F-8T Trainer (Some 400 were produced, the last being delivered in February 1960; a new front cockpit was fitted after removal of two of the four 20mm cannon extending the fuselage by some two feet, but all other dimensions remained the same. This is from my era, and I’d scan a photo but results were too grainy : perhaps someone can do so to confirm beyond doubt – not that any remains in my mind as to the aircraft type! 😉

Or as Last lightning correctly suggested “I remove that statement (it’s a) TF-9J” as the F9F-8T was later designated.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

It might not be a Navy aircraft at all as the guys in front are US army (M16A4,UCP camo) it does oddly look like a L-29 delphin but the lay out of the fired seats are wrong but the glass divider part of the canopy looks similar?

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By: JagRigger - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

Typical set up for a training exercise.

” Aircraft crashed location XXX. Pilot ejected. Secure the site. Recover pilot and XXXX equipment from the aircraft “

They get a Cougar / Panther – I got a JP !

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By: Last Lightning - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

yep looks familiar but isnt, strange, could be a mockup, voodoo fuselage with f-9f intake and wings or it could be possibly an early MB-339 or derivatives there of :confused::confused::confused:

I remove that statement:)TF-9J

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By: Nashio966 - 31st March 2025 at 13:38

DAMMIT

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By: Fouga23 - 31st March 2025 at 13:37

Where was that picture taken?

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By: JagRigger - 31st March 2025 at 13:37

It is an F9F-8T Cougar

See my next post – with full credit to owner !

For comparrison

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By: JagRigger - 31st March 2025 at 13:36

Nah – as per my first post. It’ll almost certainly be a set up for training.

Look at the guys in the photo – all using blank firing attachments on their rifles – normal for an exercise – and the ‘pilot’ dummy

‘My’ training airframe at Halton:

http://www.demobbed.org.uk/image_display.php?otype=635&types=635,1046&aircraft=21283

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By: hampden98 - 31st March 2025 at 13:36

Thanks for the replies.
Is it likely that the occupants ejected or could the seats have just been pulled out for scrap? The rails are up and the canopy is shattered. Or perhaps just made to look like an ejection for the training.

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By: Bager1968 - 31st March 2025 at 13:35

Wiki has a nice photo of a F9F-8T (redesignated TF-9J 1962) on USS Saratoga CV-60 sometime between 1957 & 1959.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/F9F-8T_on_USS_Saratoga_CVA-60.jpg/771px-F9F-8T_on_USS_Saratoga_CVA-60.jpg

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/F9F-8T_on_USS_Saratoga_CVA-60.jpg

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By: Nashio966 - 31st March 2025 at 13:35

oh dear, isnt there a thread running in general with the best double entendres? 😀

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By: Wyvernfan - 31st March 2025 at 13:35

i know its on the edge of my tongue, but i cant quite finger it

Sorry, but that made me laugh.. :p:D.

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