By: Eric Mc - 18th May 2005 at 23:12
Two pictures I took of the B-26 at Duxford in 1978.
By: DianaR - 18th May 2005 at 22:17
It wasn’t October, but 21 September 1980. Bulloch was indeed rolling the plane. I believe that at the inquest it was said he might have been suicidal, but many of the relatives affected thought this suggestion was ill founded – perhaps just something put forward to explain the inexplicable (he was a highly experienced pilot). I also believe (memory may betray me here) that the coroner’s son was one of those who’d originally hoped to go up in that ill-fated plane, but at the last moment gave up his seat to someone else.
By: duxfordhawk - 19th August 2004 at 19:09
The Army, Navy & Airforce have their own regulations seperate from the CAA,
Yes, I did mean the Fleet Air Arm.
I knew that would come out from this link somewhere,Its intresting how the rules differ from private and military run aircraft.
By: Moggy C - 19th August 2004 at 16:59
We had this discussion a while back. If you search the threads you’ll find it.
Can we move on please?
moggy
By: warbirdUK - 19th August 2004 at 16:55
Do they come under a different rule not being a civilian operator?
The Army, Navy & Airforce have their own regulations seperate from the CAA,
Yes, I did mean the Fleet Air Arm.
By: Moggy C - 18th August 2004 at 22:02
Clarity is nice.
FAA is USA. CAA is UK. The point being made is?
I hope that was what was meant and no allusion was being made to the Fleet Air Arm / Royal Navy Historic Flight? 😡
Moggy
By: JDK - 18th August 2004 at 21:56
Clarity is nice.
FAA is USA. CAA is UK. The point being made is?
UK airshow safetly is (IMHO) very good. Lesson are learned; investigation is public; blame isn’t the motivator; safety of the public and the crew is paramount, without going overboard. It’s tight, but good. Other countries have different setups. There is no argument that changes were made as a direct result of the Invader accident’s lessons.
By: trumper - 18th August 2004 at 21:47
Not, it seems, by the FAA!
Do they come under a different rule not being a civilian operator?
By: warbirdUK - 18th August 2004 at 21:31
Well hopefully lessons HAVE been learnt
Not, it seems, by the FAA!
By: duxfordhawk - 18th August 2004 at 21:29
Yes indeed the pilot was Don Bullock, who not only carried 7 passengers but tried to roll the Invader at Biggin Hill in October 1980. There was no maintenance problem, but you DON’T attempt to roll an Invader at low-level, let alone with 7 passengers on board! Following that, the CAA ruled that only essential crew would be carried during air shows and no passengers. If anyone is found flouting this rule, they risk having their display permit withdrawn.
I was only 6 and a half when this accident occured but remember vividly seeing it on TV and my uncle who was there being dumbstuck it was one of the worst incidents to occur in the UK Airshow scene and be sure lessons were learnt and as we now know no non essential people are allowed to fly in any display routine.
I have read in “The Ghosts of Biggin Hill” book the Don Bullock had asked to practice the fatal roll before the show but was refused either way its history now and really should not be dragged up again.
By: cestrian - 18th August 2004 at 20:09
A couple of photos of the ill-fated Invader N3710G.
First taken at Duxford
Second at the Mildenhall Air Show .Both taken in 1978
By: trumper - 15th August 2004 at 11:38
Well hopefully lessons HAVE been learnt
By: ALBERT ROSS - 15th August 2004 at 11:35
Yes indeed the pilot was Don Bullock, who not only carried 7 passengers but tried to roll the Invader at Biggin Hill in October 1980. There was no maintenance problem, but you DON’T attempt to roll an Invader at low-level, let alone with 7 passengers on board! Following that, the CAA ruled that only essential crew would be carried during air shows and no passengers. If anyone is found flouting this rule, they risk having their display permit withdrawn.
By: Flood - 15th August 2004 at 11:26
It might have something to do with the rules about only having essential crew on board during displays that were brought in shortly afterwards: 7 were killed in the crash.
Anything else that Moggy might be alluding to is beyond my knowledge, since I can’t be bothered to have a search and see if it was a maintenance problem which caused the crash, etc.
Flood
By: trumper - 15th August 2004 at 11:15
Not a very glorious chapter in the history of warbird preservation.
Best not go there.
Moggy
Why ,what happened then?,Were lessons learnt from it?,i know nothing of the incident.
By: Moggy C - 15th August 2004 at 09:59
Not a very glorious chapter in the history of warbird preservation.
Best not go there.
Moggy
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