Iraqi Airways

Of course this is all absolute speculation. The Coalition forces can hardly be said to have control in Iraq and I would imagine the situation will deteriorate even further, if that is at all possible, when control is handed back to the Iraqi’s in June. At the moment there isn’t even a reasonably reliable infrastructure in place for the essential needs of the Iraqi people. Air travel in safety in that country is a long way down the line. Would you wish to fly in and out of Iraq at present? And would you truly feel safe?

For the time being it will all be carried out by military aircraft or Civilian aircraft under contract to the military.

Regards,

kev35

forgot the fleet:(

LHR=743
CDG=743
SVO=A321 initially
DXB=A320
DEL=Il86

Considering how the other rebuilding programs of Iraq have gone, I think we can rule out anything from Airbus even if they where given away freely.

Iraqi Airways will probably get 2nd hand Boeings. 737s and 767s.

As for their route network, nothing spectacular for quite a while. Just routes to the neighbouring countries, London, New York or Washinton and perhaps another European destination or two.

In a few years more routes will be added to Europe and Africa, but Tokyo and Bangkok will probably not be done. There is no market there except, perhaps, for Japanese peace keeping troops, and they got their own transport planes.

Absolutely, the old livery. New fleet:

ATR42 for domestic routes, as well as to Jordan and Kuwait.
Boeing 737-500 for routes in the Middle East
Boeing 767-200ER for routes to Europe, Bangkok and Tokyo, as well as N. Africa.

Or Airbus:

ATR42
Airbus A319
Airbus A310

Definitely keep the old livery, it is absolutely stunning and seems to suit whichever aircraft it was painted on.

Regards,

kev35

According to one source (forgot which one) they were recently inviting bids to overhaul their stored fleet of 727s and 747s in Amman and Tunis. Whether this is a realistic project is another thing, but nevertheless some of their 727s have the lowest number of cycles of any 727s as they were delivered in the early 80s and have been stored since 1991.

In any case I hope they keep their gorgeous livery… they did have a contract with Airbus before the first war, for A310s I believe. IIRC they repainted one or a few of the A310s they stole from Kuwait Airways in 1990.

I wouldn’t be surprised if their new fleet will be equipped by Boeing, though. Please let it be 737-800s…

They had an IL 76 and a few 727’s but more than half of their fleet has been burnt out, I think they only have one 727 left which will probably go to the government. They’ll need a completely new airline.

To LHR as it is profitable from anywhere and Maybe:

FRA
CDG
SVO
DXB
DEL

I think they will do the same routes[whatever they were!]
They will have as their design a dark green thick line across the body and on the tail will be diffrent shades of green and on the fueslage it will say iraqi airways in Black??!!?My opinion!

Thanks for Iraqi pics Andy & Cyprioteagle……Love the Trident!

Originally posted by keltic
I supposed that was the real reason. But I find quite stupid for Airbus purchasing american parts for his models, if they are vetoed in many markets. Engines…Rolls Royce and Snecma has american parts?. Quite a paradox.

CFM is half American anyway – it as a GE/SNECMA joint venture so it is natural those engines are subject to US restrictions.

I don’t know of any particular US involvment with RR engines, but I suppose there must be a few parts here and there from US subcontractors.

Hi,

I managed to find this picture of an iraqi airways trident two aircraft in London heathrow.. unfortunately I was unable to determine when this pic was taken… but more likely during the 70’s.

I learned years ago, that iraqi tridents were stored in the occupied areas of Cyprus, and perhaps they were the reason why the Cyprus Airways Trident aircraft suffered such derelict i.e. to take all vital parts to be used as spares to these tridents. whether these airplanes still exist in the occupied areas of Cyprus is unknown

Kind Regards

I supposed that was the real reason. But I find quite stupid for Airbus purchasing american parts for his models, if they are vetoed in many markets. Engines…Rolls Royce and Snecma has american parts?. Quite a paradox.

Whilst the US cannot stop a European company from selling their products to Iran, they can stop US-made parts being supplied to Airbus if they believe the parts will be used to make aircraft which will end up in the hands of Iran (or a fellow axis country).

Principally, I would say the engines are a problem as well as possibly some of the avionics.

Connected to this, I have a question. It´s about US sanctions to different airlines (Lybia, Iran, Iraq) and their incapability to get brand new Airbus fleet. Iraqi had started the adquisition of new airbus, Iranair wants new A330 and 320, but I have read the US sanctions don´t allow the delivery of airbus fleet. Being european, what does the US have to say about it?. Probably some american spare parts in them?. Can´t these spare parts be changed for not breaking the sanctions?.

Presuming that they have been recently flyable, it would be interesting to see the maintenance state of these aircraft!!!!!!!!! With lack of spares, design support e.t.c. I bet they are flying deathtraps!!!!!!!!!

Paul

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Thanks for that Preston…much obliged.

I believe before the first Gulf war the rest of the fleet was flown to safety in places like Iran and other Arab kingdoms, but after the war they were impounded by the “host” nations! Iraq basically never got them back!