Ironic staff shortages!

BA have largely relied on ground staff being prepared to do overtime to cover their needs. Discontent in the workplace now means that in addition to normal sickness the remaining staff are not volunteering for overtime so the management are being forced into realising the staffing level problem.

That explains the “work to rule” thing I heard about last night

I hate Eddington for getting shut of Concorde and now he is hell bent on cost-cutting and ailienating his staff in the process. I hope he got paid the same wages as a check-in clerk when he fulfilled that function the other day!

Have you ever actualy read about the REAL reasons for concordes retirement? OR do you just beleive the Crap Richard Branson spouted?

It comes down to Air France. Pure and simple.

BA have largely relied on ground staff being prepared to do overtime to cover their needs. Discontent in the workplace now means that in addition to normal sickness the remaining staff are not volunteering for overtime so the management are being forced into realising the staffing level problem.

I hate Eddington for getting shut of Concorde and now he is hell bent on cost-cutting and ailienating his staff in the process. I hope he got paid the same wages as a check-in clerk when he fulfilled that function the other day!

I acknowledge I miss-interpreted you T5. Sorry for that.

I think an important point that people forget is that working as ground staff may not be the job they want, it could be the only one they could get. Whatever increase the ground staff get you can guarantee it will not affect BA’s profit and it certainly won’t reduce the salaries or salary increases paid to senior management.

There are times that the threat of industrial action, or industrial action itself, is the only language an employer will understand. Some of us have learned that particular lesson the hard way.

Regards,

kev35

So are you suggesting they accept Victorian mill working practices to keep the airline in business?

Sorry, but the last time I checked BA wasn’t anywhere near breaking point. You certainly don’t seem to credit disgruntled employees with any sense or intelligence either ?

That was in response to micheals comments.

I read that the BA negotiations had been going on since January? I remember working for a firm like that once. The only way to get a settlement was to go on strike. 😮
mmitch.

The usual blackmail of the companies :
“Oh you bad employees , you want more money , you’re gonna drive the company to bankrupcy , blablabla”.
An at the end of the year you hear that the profits sky-rocketed and the bonus to the share holders has been multiplied by 3.

And if they bring the airline to breaking point, they all loose their jobs.

yeah, real intelligent move that

So are you suggesting they accept Victorian mill working practices to keep the airline in business?

Sorry, but the last time I checked BA wasn’t anywhere near breaking point. You certainly don’t seem to credit disgruntled employees with any sense or intelligence either ?

I presume by your post T5 that because you are studying for a degree you are superior to someone who has worked all their life and that the job you will get will also be better than that of an ‘air steward’? Just asking.

You presumed wrong.

You have not interpreted what I have said in the way it was intended.

The impression I got from ‘purser’ was that he felt that all forum members who didn’t already work in the aviation industry would want to at some point. The fact that I have studied for years on end and now reaching my final few years as a student, studying something completely unrelated to aviation proves just how little I want a career in aviation.

Simply proving that was he saying did not apply to me!

I hope Rod Eddington recieved the same daily rate of pay as the check-in staff when he helped out recently!

Some companies don’t recognise unions :rolleyes: That’s a problem when mass redundancies become an issue (believe me, I’ve been there)

Absenteeism is a well recognised trait of worker dissatisfaction. BA ramp rats may be paid more than others, but it doesn’t mean their working conditions are necessarily any better. Whether you agree or disagree with their action, BA workers should recognise their immense power in bringing such a carrier to virtual breaking point and drawing attention to their issue. Without any union/militant support, such a thing would not be possible and senior management would just walk all over them.

And if they bring the airline to breaking point, they all loose their jobs.

yeah, real intelligent move that

I presume by your post T5 that because you are studying for a degree you are superior to someone who has worked all their life and that the job you will get will also be better than that of an ‘air steward’? Just asking.

T5

Just my opinion.

Good luck with the degree.

In some Companies the Unions are either not there or not powerful enough to counterbalance the management power. In such companied most of the times the employess are just screwed to make more monye for the share holders, especially when the business is not to good.

Some companies don’t recognise unions :rolleyes: That’s a problem when mass redundancies become an issue (believe me, I’ve been there)

Absenteeism is a well recognised trait of worker dissatisfaction. BA ramp rats may be paid more than others, but it doesn’t mean their working conditions are necessarily any better. Whether you agree or disagree with their action, BA workers should recognise their immense power in bringing such a carrier to virtual breaking point and drawing attention to their issue. Without any union/militant support, such a thing would not be possible and senior management would just walk all over them.

Yeah right, of course you don’t.

Having a biased opinion isn’t nice is it!

Why on earth are you questioning me about bias? It was not me that annoyed you by making some upsetting remark in an earlier post.

You’ve clearly had a rowdy passenger today. Why not take an early night?

I’m currently studying for a degree as well… certainly not to become an Air Steward either.

Yeah right, of course you don’t.

Having a biased opinion isn’t nice is it!

Some of you, please think before you post

I’d advise you to do the same, stereotyping us as “spotters who could only dream of working for an airline”. WRONG… I don’t really want to work for an airline.

😡

Here we go again, lets have a go at BA staff, after all, we’re up for it, we get paid shed loads for doing practically nothing, get every perk in the book and of course take the managemnt for a ride………………………WRONG!

Some of you, please think before you post, I find some of your comments insulting and very detrimental to myself and colleagues.

I think I’ll stick to the pprune forums, at least there’s people in the aviation industry there that have a degree of knowledge of what they’re talking about and not just spotters that can only dream of working for an airline.

There’s nothing wrong with having an opion as long as it’s well thought out and based on some kind of real awareness of the situation.