Is a Seafire a Spitfire?

The earliest Seafires were Spitfires, with hooks and eventually folding wings, and there were even ‘hooked’ Spitfires (without the folding wings) that mainly served in training roles.

If there is any doubt you might ask yourself was the Sea Harrier a Harrier? There was a lot more visual difference between the GR1 and the SHar FRS1, even more with the GR3; and when you get to the later Harriers then they have little but a passing similarity between the GR1/GR3 and GR5 onwards, much like the later Spitfire/Seafires..

Re 14 & 11

Not quite. With a bootneck you can get three out of one. He’s a soldier who often serves on ships, originally to keep the ‘lower deck’ from the throats of the ‘upper’.

He’s a soldier distinguished from a ‘pongo’ – translation ‘brown job’ – by his original function of amphibious landings.

And he is Special Forces eg. SBS = Special Boat Squadron.

Unlike the above, I’ve always regarded the Spitfire/Seafire as one and the same. They look alike and sound alike. The one departs from a land base and the other occasionally gets wet !

And now they are rarer are they worth more or less than a Spitfire? or does the name Spitfire add so much more to the price tag.

The Irish Air Corps received 12 Seafires LFIII converted to Spitfire V, many pilots referred to them a Spitfires and recorded them as such in their log books. The Air Corps aircraft logs listed them as Seafires as did all other documentation.
Regards to all,
Tony K

I thought all you Spitfire bods were data plate mad!
So, what’s it say on a Seafires data plates? If it says Seafire it’s a Seafire.

So is a Royal Marine a Sailor or a Soldier? Any Booties on here care to answer?

A soldier in the Navy.

This seems to be one of those threads where the original question can be interpreted in various different ways, providing scope for a jolly good argument. Best not to get involved. Er, Oh, hang on a minute…
Think of a type’s lineage as a family tree where each version is derived from a previous in some way. You can apply your own gloss to the significance of the connections.

You know I’ve never understood smarta%$e answers to what was probably a reasonable question, especially given the American predilection for designating what is effectively new aircraft into an existing designation as a way of ensuring funding approval (NAA F-95A to F-86D for example). Also The Supermarine Victor to Spitfire F.21 (considering the very low % of similarity to the Spitfire I.

As for my opinion, certainly the early marks deserved to be called navalised Spitfires and the middle series of Seafires did match up with the mark numbers of the Spitfire. I think it is the F.45/46/47 where they completely diverge. the first 2 do share a lot with the last Spitfires but IMHO by the Seafire F.47 there was very little in common with the Spitfires let alone the early Seafires so I’d be happy to call it something different.

Just my opinion to what I thought was a reasonable question.

So is a Royal Marine a Sailor or a Soldier? Any Booties on here care to answer?

“Seafire” was simply a contraction of “Sea Spitfire”.

Simples.

Would those who say the Seafire isn’t a modified Spitfire also claim the Sea Hurricane was not a Hurricane? I doubt it.

Some Seafire Marks corresponded directly to Spitfire marks (Seafire 1b = Spitfire Vb for instance), others had no obvious equivalent … If that helps … Which it probably doesn’t.

Is the Pope a Catholic…?

Oh lord, the name dropping….

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Oh lord, the condescension. Yes, “Google is your friend.” Been using it since the late ’90s, since my mathematician niece is a friend of Sergey Brin’s.

But I’m not interested in what the book calls it. I already know that. After all, “the book” calls the F-16 the Fighting Falcon, but only a dork calls it anything but a Viper. To quote from a recent article on the airplane, “The book may call it a Seafire, but pilots preferred ‘hooked Spitfire.’ ‘Spitfire’ had street cred. ‘Seafire’ prompted quizzical looks.” I’d like to find out if that’s true or not.

But thanks for the lesson. Much appreciated.

I’ve always thought of it as a Navalised Spitfire.

I would just say it’s an adaptation of the spitfire.

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