Sunday, December 7, 2008
New movement for Varyag
So this week, we saw some new photos of Varyag coming out. The photo is kind of interesting because it looks like they opened up the missile section (where the shipwreck missiles would be) to fit equipments in there. We are not sure exactly what. One of the major possibilities would be engines for Varyag. The parts for the engines could be lowered to the hangar deck through the missile opening and/or the hangar elevator. They can then cut an opening in the hangar deck to lower and assemble the engines inside the boiler rooms. After what seemed to be a couple of years of hibernation, work for Varyag has started again. Here are some of the photos of the work done for the ship.
By: Arabella-Cox - 14th December 2008 at 01:08
You mean like all your steroid sports scandals. I never saw a girl with no neck before until that one that fell and cost the US the gold. Oh wait, I forgot the female body builders. But then they use steroids.
I’ll be happy to let public opinion to decide the matter…………;)
By: tphuang - 14th December 2008 at 01:05
Well, the Pictures and Article came from Information Dissemination dated December 7th. Which, has always been a reliable source……………
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oh yeah, that was my post. Not much to be made out of it, just that after a long dormant period, it seems like they are doing something to it again. As with anything else PLAN related, wait and see.
By: Hell King - 11th December 2008 at 05:07
Please, China steals intelectual property daily and sends 12 year old girls to the Olympics.
You mean like all your steroid sports scandals. I never saw a girl with no neck before until that one that fell and cost the US the gold. Oh wait, I forgot the female body builders. But then they use steroids.
By: Arabella-Cox - 11th December 2008 at 04:13
was that an original condition for the purchase?
It was……………
Please, China steals intelectual property daily and sends 12 year old girls to the Olympics.
She may have come along ways……………Yet, she has along ways to go!
By: pilatus - 11th December 2008 at 03:59
According to wiki it was!i heard it mentioned on this forum before also!
By: Stonewall - 10th December 2008 at 14:01
What if they do use the Varyag and breach the original deal that she would never be rebuilt or used as a military ship!? Is there anything that can be done against them legally, not that the chinesse would care!
was that an original condition for the purchase?
By: pilatus - 10th December 2008 at 12:29
What if they do use the Varyag and breach the original deal that she would never be rebuilt or used as a military ship!? Is there anything that can be done against them legally, not that the chinesse would care!
By: Arabella-Cox - 10th December 2008 at 02:42
the attachted picture is nearly 2 years old if not older. i got it from a forum post from the 5th february 2007.
from my point of view the marked area looks very similar to the pictures posted above. so maybe not so much has changed at this section of the varyag.
Well, the Pictures and Article came from Information Dissemination dated December 7th. Which, has always been a reliable source……………
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By: Arabella-Cox - 9th December 2008 at 22:45
Sunday, December 7, 2008
New movement for Varyag
So this week, we saw some new photos of Varyag coming out.
Careful Libby. There’s nothing really special about that picture
I hate to say it but sometimes we get a few zealous enthusiasts in China who have a habit of over analyzing pictures.
anyone remember the PLAAF MiG-29 dealio a few years ago
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3142
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15509
got some crazy reasoning being thrown over a vague picture.
By: bgnewf - 9th December 2008 at 20:28
One thing that I think we all can perhaps agree upon from the substantial amount of yard work being carried out on the ship over the past couple of years is the fact that this ship is not going to be a casino or floating amusement park. She will be used in some capacity by the PLAN.
By: radar - 9th December 2008 at 20:26
the attachted picture is nearly 2 years old if not older. i got it from a forum post from the 5th february 2007.
from my point of view the marked area looks very similar to the pictures posted above. so maybe not so much has changed at this section of the varyag.
By: echonine - 9th December 2008 at 07:52
Apologies, confused Varyag with a Kiev class.
In any case, didn’t the deal with the Ukraine / China specify that it wouldn’t be refitted for combat – ever?
wikipedia quoting Jane’s:
Analysts believe that the PLAN will use Varyag as a training platform for carrier take-offs and landings. Robert Karniol, the Asia editor of Jane’s Defence Weekly, said: “The Chinese haven’t seen this type of carrier before and it could be very useful to them. They are trying to vacuum up as much know how as they can.” Liu Huaqing, a senior admiral of the PLAN and proponent of naval modernization, has spoken of the 21st century as the “century of the sea” and called for naval modernization over several decades. At the same time, there has been resistance within the PLAN at Liu Huaqing’s vision for an extensive Chinese navy, leading to constant debates between developing aircraft carriers and submarines.”
another quote from Wikipedia
“Nevertheless, it was painted in PLAN grey in 2005. On 24 October 2006, the Kommersant online daily newspaper revealed Russia plans to sell up to 50 Su-33 fighters in a $2.5 billion deal. The deal has gone through according to the February 2007 issue of Air Forces Monthly.[cite this quote] Also recent photos in the Dalian Shipyard have shown that a yellow anti-skid primer was added to the flightdeck. Then the final flight deck turf layering was added on top of it. The vessel has also been painted in the standard PLA Naval colours. This may indicate that the PLA Navy intend to use the ex-Varyag as an operational carrier at some point in the future.
Jane’s Fighting Ships states that Varyag may have been named Shi Lang and assigned pennant number 83. Jane’s notes that both the name and pennant number are unconfirmed, however. Shi Lang was a Ming-Qing Dynasty admiral who conquered Taiwan in 1681.[4] Jane’s Navy International noted in October 2007 that ‘refurbishment work and fitting out is continuing and the vessel is expected to begin initial sea trials in 2008.'[5]”
By: sealordlawrence - 9th December 2008 at 07:38
Sandbox, not Shipwreck.
Interesting development.
So we might see two of the old Kievs around eh. . .
It is common knowledge the the Kuznetsov class use Shipwrecks.:rolleyes:
By: Nicolas - 9th December 2008 at 07:32
Sandbox, not Shipwreck.
Interesting development.
So we might see two of the old Kievs around eh. . .
Eh, no. Shipwreck!
By: wilhelm - 9th December 2008 at 07:23
Sandbox, not Shipwreck.
Interesting development.
So we might see two of the old Kievs around eh. . .
The Varyag is not a member of the Kiev Class.
By: echonine - 9th December 2008 at 05:19
Sunday, December 7, 2008
New movement for Varyag
So this week, we saw some new photos of Varyag coming out. The photo is they opened up the missile section (where the shipwreck missiles would be)
Sandbox, not Shipwreck.
Interesting development.
So we might see two of the old Kievs around eh. . .
By: DJ. - 9th December 2008 at 04:59
They are installing new Woks … its all plan of the new Yum-Cha delivery system.
Navalised J-10s will precision drop your Egg rolls directly to your home, in 30 min or less, or the meal is free :D:D:D
(sorry scoot.. its one of those days where i cant muster serious thought to save my life)
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