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Is Ebay getting more tasteless?

I feel the need for this link has now gone and therefore have removed it.

I am just glad the seller came to his senses quickly and edited his advertisement.

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 1st June 2005 at 08:02

Hi all
try this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2983&item=5586239959&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

what really gets me is the people that put items from crash site’s on ebay..
Have been in the business for some 15years or so (and losing a number of friends in crasher) THIS IS WHAT REALLY GETS ME !!!!

Can’t see anything morally wrong with that. Not sure which is twisted most though, the item, the person trying to sell it, or anyone wanting to bid on a piece of twisted metal from a scrap yard!! 😮

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By: Peter - 1st June 2005 at 02:08

not half as bad as that ******* that was selling a tattered pilots tunic on ebay that still had the poor souls name and insignia on it that he dug up!!

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By: Paul Rix - 1st June 2005 at 00:28

I just stumbled onto this thread. All I can say is a big thank you to those who took the time and trouble to contact the seller and get him to change his mind. I would like to give him the benifit of the doubt and put it down to a momentary lapse of judgement. Needless to say, images of the broken airframe have a lot more meaning to me than just rivets and twisted aluminium. After learning some of the details from the accident report, those images are even more distressing.

Thanks again..

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By: andrewman - 31st May 2005 at 23:51

Oh well Ebay are so obsessed with making cash I don’t think they give a **** what you sell to be honest, Ebid (www.ebid.co.uk) has a lot less of this **** and seems to be the way forward.

I wont share my opinion’s on those selling the remains of crashed planes, as it would end up a massive rant.

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By: markp451a - 31st May 2005 at 23:36

Hi all
try this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2983&item=5586239959&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

what really gets me is the people that put items from crash site’s on ebay..
Have been in the business for some 15years or so (and losing a number of friends in crasher) THIS IS WHAT REALLY GETS ME !!!!

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By: Barnowl - 31st May 2005 at 23:08

It does beg the question which is worse; them for trying to sell pictures (and thats all they are, folks, not pieces of wreckage or scraps of clothing), or some of us on this very forum discussing in detail exactly what aircraft it was, who the pilot was, what squadron he came from, how many children he left behind etc, because this has happened recently regarding the C-130 crash in Iraq over on the MMA forum. Just because that was then and this is now, do we not think that the continual dredging up of speculation of how a man died due to flak/fighter activity/mechanical failure etc. Is this not more personal and more morally dubious than posting pictures of a crashed aircraft? Just my two pence…
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By: Flood - 31st May 2005 at 22:36

Hi,
Not condoning the posting and sale of the photos .
However there have been many e bay WW2 photos of a/c crashes with the pilot / or crew lying alongside, and I have never seen complaints on any boards, only discussion on which a/c it was, who the pilot was , etc.
Even on this board I have seen crash photos discussed, the only difference I can see is that the photos are old, from WW2.
It brings to question the thoughts of morals & aviation history.
If we follow general morals, should a/c, whose crews were killed in the crash, have their a/c recovered for restoration.
Some have said it is disturbing a grave & restoring a coffin.
I wish to make clear I myself have been involved in ‘dig groups’ in the past, so am not casting stones.
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There have been comments and threads have been deleted, even in the recent past, of WWII aircraft crash pictures taken by the Germans and sold on Ebay. That you cannot find them is due to the fact that they invariably are not around to be seen…
There are probably people here who would scream murder about aircraft wreckage with bodies on board being disturbed or the use of wreckage from fatal incidents (such as WB271 – there was a thread about rebuilding or reusing it that was deleted) for other restorations, yet seem pleased to see aircraft remains coming from behind the former iron curtain where such formalities appear to be rarely bothered with. Do I remember a story about a Bf109, maybe now being restored for flight, getting hauled out of a lake not too long ago and the pilots remains being hosed out of the cockpit?

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 31st May 2005 at 22:13

Downloading crash photos for morbid curiosity is one thing. Trying to make a profit from them just isn’t morally right?

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Tell that to the editors of the daily newspapers? 🙁

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By: ZRX61 - 31st May 2005 at 21:16

Downloading crash photos for morbid curiosity is one thing. Trying to make a profit from them just isn’t morally right?

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True, but I doubt anyone would have paid for em as they are readily available for free…. (those Iraqi beheading vid’s were a bit gruesome)

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By: Plazz - 31st May 2005 at 21:11

Downloading crash photos for morbid curiosity is one thing. Trying to make a profit from them just isn’t morally right?

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By: ZRX61 - 31st May 2005 at 20:42

I seem to recall the pics from that crash being all over the ‘net within hours of the crash & anyone could have downloaded a bunch of them for free….
(ogrish.com, rotten.com etc)

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By: Snapper - 31st May 2005 at 20:27

“so am not casting stones.”

More like pearls in here…..

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By: brewerjerry - 31st May 2005 at 20:23

two standards ?

Hi,
Not condoning the posting and sale of the photos .
However there have been many e bay WW2 photos of a/c crashes with the pilot / or crew lying alongside, and I have never seen complaints on any boards, only discussion on which a/c it was, who the pilot was , etc.
Even on this board I have seen crash photos discussed, the only difference I can see is that the photos are old, from WW2.
It brings to question the thoughts of morals & aviation history.
If we follow general morals, should a/c, whose crews were killed in the crash, have their a/c recovered for restoration.
Some have said it is disturbing a grave & restoring a coffin.
I wish to make clear I myself have been involved in ‘dig groups’ in the past, so am not casting stones.
Cheers
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By: Bruggen 130 - 31st May 2005 at 20:01

Just looking in the Photo sections.
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By: Bruggen 130 - 31st May 2005 at 19:57

There was a sh!tbag selling pictures of Dr Harold Shipmans surgery on Ebay
a couple of months back. 😡
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By: vicky ten - 31st May 2005 at 19:20

It just demonstrates a total lack of compassion, and a whole lot of greed.

OK, hands up, maybe not greed, bad choice of words there, but there was not a whole lot of thought going on there!

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By: Bluebird Mike - 31st May 2005 at 19:04

Well done, all involved who prompted the offending pictures being withdrawn so swiftly.

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By: sniperUK - 31st May 2005 at 18:11

Next we’ll have assassins selling spent cartridges!

That and more has happened NORAID and other “Irish American” groups have auctioned weapons used by the IRA to kill police and soldiers in Ulster in the USA.

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By: duxfordhawk - 31st May 2005 at 16:44

Still think its wrong to profit from any photo’s of her and certainly was shocked when heard that photo’s were of the wreakage etc( I am assuming these were very similar if not the same as the ones the press had), I agree with Robbo its good he amended the Auction and did not think when first posted them.

It was a tragic event that is still very much in my mind especailly when i am attending Airshows,We should not forget what happened but we should also not sell photos of it.

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By: DazDaMan - 31st May 2005 at 16:11

When I sent him the message I didn’t tell him, and didn’t think it was in my place to tell him, that the brother of the one of the crew might find out about this…

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