Is it really the safest?

The most frightened I’ve been in vintage aviation is getting a lift on a British road from a vintage aircraft pilot who was also a race car driver.

RL?
I was once a passenger in Nick Grey’s Lancia Integrale… that was an “interesting” experience & thats putting it mildly.. It’s not so much the hump back bridge that got my attention, it was hitting it at an angle because there was a bend just over it & ya had to land pointed in the right direction to make the corner or risk a ground loop into the adjacent field… 😮
Wasn’t so bad on the way back after lunch, I’d had a few pints of nerve stiffener…. 😀
I recall one of the other passengers being Mark Hanna who had a big grin on his face the entire time.

The most frightened I’ve been in vintage aviation is getting a lift on a British road from a vintage aircraft pilot who was also a race car driver.

Same happened to me about 20 years ago. A friend and I had gone flying with a warbird pilot who had been a race car driver, then we flew again in his car on the motorway down to London. Should have added that to the “How low can you go” thread. I’m fairly sure we won that day!

T J

I don’t want to be mean, but…

Should’nt this be in the “I can’t understand statistics and risk analysis” forum?

Do the numbers. Be enlightened.

The most frightened I’ve been in vintage aviation is getting a lift on a British road from a vintage aircraft pilot who was also a race car driver. The first time should have been warning enough. I let the second guy have the (hire car) keys! Idiot.

I maybe wrong in putting this in after how I originally started the thread, but last week, I read in an article in a well known mens magazine, (and I don’t mean the rude kind) on air crashes, that, for you to be involved in an air crash just once, you’d need to fly every day for ten hours at a time for 15,000 years.

Or in another form 1:11,000,000,000 chance!

Every time I fly the PA22 I have to wobble around atop a step ladder to check the fuel state.

I consider this by far the most dangerous part of the flight. 😮

Moggy

But what happens if the pilot gets stung by a Bee & crashes into shark infested waters? :dev2:

Now thats what i call a Bad Day :eek:.
Flying is definitely the safest form of transport but as with all transports accidents do happen they are rare but due to the nature of Aircraft they are normally fatal and can involve a high amount of casualties.
You should not include Aircraft accidents involving any of the following Airshow/Airdisplay Aircraft, Light Aircraft and Military and you will see the figure is really small your safer at 34,000 feet than you are at ground level.

Its fair to say flying is safe, Its crashing that is dangerous and best avoided,
But seriously crossing the road is probably more risky.

“One man in Croydon is hit by a car every week, And by the end of the month he is pretty p1ssed off about it” :rolleyes: .

Apparantly I heard that more people die of bee stings and shark attacks every year

Ummm… where did you hear that??

More people die of bee stings, granted. But SHARK ATTACK??

How many a year? Less than a dozen worldwide. Yes, flying is still infinitely safer than swimming in the sea! :rolleyes:

Apparantly I heard that more people die of bee stings and shark attacks every year than people dieing as a result of an air accident. I feel at lots safer when in the air. not sure why but theres a total calmness about it. NS

But what happens if the pilot gets stung by a Bee & crashes into shark infested waters? :dev2:

Apparantly I heard that more people die of bee stings and shark attacks combined every year than people being killed as a result of an air accident. I feel at lots safer when in the air. not sure why but theres a total calmness about it.
NS

Flying is incredibly safe. According to Antonio Bordonis book about air accidents, there are around 2000 deaths in air crashes in aircraft over 15 tonnes every year. This is tiny compared to the number killed on the roads, as mentioned above. On another note… there were 1000 murders in the UK last year.

“Flying is supposed to be the safest form of transport around”

It apparently still is (see attached UK DTI based info).

I reckon it would still be safer if all aircraft stayed in museums or hangars, though… :p

Skipper

an Antanov AN-32 crashed just after taking off from Malabala airport. A witness said that flames were coming out of the side of the aircraft, it then lost height, skipped over the trees for about half a mile then crashed in the jungle, killing all 60 people on board!

The Flight safety culture is not all it should be in the ‘developing world’….Have you ever had a good look at some of these aircraft?

I was going to comment here, about aircrashes because its an important topic,

but then again I thought :confused:

…… why bother, the thought police will only accuse me of either being responsible for those 1.2M people being killed on the road – OR – having said that they were poorly trained, and to name them all personally otherwise I couldnt really be entitled to an opinion

and in anycase can I prove how many people were killed in cars from simply looking at pictures or reading someone elses posts, and in any case I am probably just a fence sitter or worse a cheese munching surrender monkey who rides bikes and do I really have a car licence because only another car driver would really know how people could or couldnt die in cars, and besides who are you to say anything about the W.H.O. …………….. 🙁

then if I dont watch out they will cut and past half of what I say, fill in the other half with their words, and post it back at me saying i said something I didnt? (or didnt until I am told I did) then someone else will demand that I prove the accusation I didnt make…..and besides no one understands what I am raving about anyway???

And I have to admit by the time they know more about what I said, what I intended to say, and what I will say, than I do, that its obviously time I give up saying anything, and admit I am wrong,

and then I took a valium and went over to WIX :dev2:

regards??

I’m not quite sure anymore????

If you’d ever seen the the airshow act that Jimmy Franklin put on I hardly think that his accident at Moose Jaw could be included in air transport.

Unless you enjoy outside seating!
He’ll be missed.
Andy

A quick google says that according to the WHO 1.2m people are killed on the roads worldwide each year…

There is probably on average more than one car crash a day around the world..

Really? :rolleyes: Last time it rained here in Los Angeles there were over 500 within 24 hours….

Just a small statistic, but every day about 16 million people are flying around the globe somewhere. It may help to include that in the ‘debate’. 😉