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By: RobAnt - 23rd October 2009 at 02:50

I don’t think it’s so much that it is a black doll, but the term golli “wog”, which is offensive.

After all, cabbage patch dolls are predominantly white – yet they no more resemble a white boy or girl than does a gollie a black boy or girl.

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By: old shape - 22nd October 2009 at 19:53

BNP Leader on telly.

So, he’s on Question time.
There were protesters outside the BBC about this, saying that he shouldn’t be allowed to speak.
erm..
(a) His party has two seats in Yerp thus a bona fide politician entitled to appear on QT and to have Party Political Broadcasts at election time.
(b) Free speech?
(c) Not one of the protesters was a Black or Brown person. What gives the white people doing the protest the assumption that they have the right to speak on behalf of the Blacks/ Browns? That in itself is belittling to the people offended is it not?
(d) Let him speak, he will either make a fool of himself or draw votes. Either way, it will be the democracy we’d kill to protect.

I don’t care either way, I vote for whoever pays me. My scrupples are totally adjustable when it comes to electing these corrupt set of idiots.

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By: Ren Frew - 22nd October 2009 at 19:36

Another piece of PC stupidity is the probable renaming of Guy Gibson’s dog in a remake of the Dambusters. My Mum tells me that lots of black Labradors were called “Nigger” in those days.

I’ll be standing by with a box of caucasian paper handkerchiefs when the Labrador dog of afro-carribean origin interfaces with the truck ! 😉

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By: Fleet Shadower - 22nd October 2009 at 19:14

I remember watching on television a news broadcast about this. It was a local museum that invited people to display itemsthey thought were significant. In the display were a collection of Golly badges, and a couple of 19th century Blackamoor figures from the Black Forest. There was a big hoo-hah aobout it and whether they should be pulled. The irony was that it was a Black man who had lent them in the first place, saying that it is part of his social history, and, while sometimes regrettable, wanted to preserve for others what it was like for his race at certain points in history.

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By: laviticus - 22nd October 2009 at 19:08

The thing is Golliwogs ARE racist caricatures of black people from the days when
racism was rampant.
We (we being white) might not find them offensive, but alot of my black friends do.And not having them about denys fuel for the biggots to use them as an insult.

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By: Comet - 22nd October 2009 at 18:50

I’ve got a golliwog, there’s a shop in my town which sells them and I don’t see a problem with them, I just have a problem with the PC brigade who try to lecture about what we should and should not have, think or say.

Another piece of PC stupidity is the probable renaming of Guy Gibson’s dog in a remake of the Dambusters. My Mum tells me that lots of black Labradors were called “Nigger” in those days.

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By: Martin Bull - 21st October 2009 at 08:24

I can still remember it now, smacked, straight home (we were at the shops) into bed with no tea etc.

It’s quite obvious that you were abused as a child and denied your fundamental human rights under EU Regulation A/XRW/679025 Subsection 27(D)AF9645 Paragraph 27(b). Please furnish us with with details of your parents in order that they may pay their debt to society……;)

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By: old shape - 16th October 2009 at 20:30

It was the early 70’s that “Love thy neighbour” was on telly.
The N-N word was always retaliated by the African guy, with “White Honkey”.

It was 50/50 racism. But it was deemed offensive to the African/Blacks, even though the white guy was always usurped in every episode.

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By: BSG-75 - 16th October 2009 at 20:17

Actually, so did I.
As they sold Jam, it was clear to me that it was a Blackberry. In the 60’s, the racism around where I lived used the N word not the W word so had no idea it may upset some folk.
I didn’t know the W word as a slurr until I was 13 or 14. Maybe 12. It was N or a P for those with the corner shops.

I used the “N” word when I was about 8 (early 70’s) and my parents went mad, I can still remember it now, smacked, straight home (we were at the shops) into bed with no tea etc.

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By: old shape - 16th October 2009 at 20:12

Hand on heart, I never associated Golliwogs with people, I thought the head of the Robinsons Golly was a Blackberry and it was only when people started making a song and dance about it that I realised what people said it was!

Actually, so did I.
As they sold Jam, it was clear to me that it was a Blackberry. In the 60’s, the racism around where I lived used the N word not the W word so had no idea it may upset some folk.
I didn’t know the W word as a slurr until I was 13 or 14. Maybe 12. It was N or a P for those with the corner shops.

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By: BSG-75 - 16th October 2009 at 18:27

Hand on heart, I never associated Golliwogs with people, I thought the head of the Robinsons Golly was a Blackberry and it was only when people started making a song and dance about it that I realised what people said it was!

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By: Merlin Madness - 16th October 2009 at 18:24

Well i dont think the`re racist, now i`m off to watch the Black and White Minstrel Show:dev2:

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By: Pondskater - 16th October 2009 at 17:46

Can you buy ’em?

Too right. I used to send off the tokens on jam jars as a kid and the badges lay in a drawer for year. A couple of years ago I offered them on eBay. One sold for £120 😮

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By: Grey Area - 16th October 2009 at 17:25

LoL, where’s that then? Is it a special historical theme thing? Can you buy ’em?

Buy them? Most of us in here came ready-equipped with a pair of our own. :confused:

Oh… you meant the golliwogs.

Hard to say, seeing as the shop wasn’t due to open for at least another hour. I suppose it could have been a Christmas display of some sort.

We are halfway through October, after all.

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By: old shape - 16th October 2009 at 16:33

As I type this, I’m sitting in a coffee shop opposite a top shop with a window display featuring….

Yes, you guessed it…..

Golliwogs.

Looks like another prime batch from the B****cks Factory to me.

LoL, where’s that then? Is it a special historical theme thing? Can you buy ’em?

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By: Nashio966 - 16th October 2009 at 15:12

i used to have a goliwogg lol 🙁 i miss it lots.

wonder what they say to the classical piece by Claude Debussy

“goliwoggs cakewalk” lol

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By: Sky High - 16th October 2009 at 15:03

A couple of years ago a group of us were sorting stuff for a church jumble sale and a golliwog appeared.
There were two Caribbean ladies present.One thought it was a harmless toy and commented,”hey,it looks like me !”
The other lady was absolutely outraged and treated us to a ten minute lecture on how it was an evil symbol of racial oppression,had no place in modern society,such things should be banned completely,how would we like seeing a white equivalent,and so on ad nauseam.
Two completely opposite views from ladies with very similar backgrounds.
No prizes for guessing whose opinion was received more sympathetically.It’s a harmless child’s toy and children don’t even notice racial differences until adults teach them to.Years ago my daughter wanted to identify a little girl at playgroup and the best she could come up with was,”She wears a blue dress”.She had no idea at all that the girl was Asian.
Incidentally,I was watching an antiques expert valuing an old golliwog toy recently,and she referred to it only as a “golly”.What a load of round things.
Is there anyone on here who truly is offended by golliwogs,sorry,gollies ?

Probably. We are all offended by something sometime. The trick is not to get uptight about it and “move on”. There are far too many narrow minded bigots with tight brains an d tight ar…es.

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By: BumbleBee - 16th October 2009 at 10:21

A couple of years ago a group of us were sorting stuff for a church jumble sale and a golliwog appeared.
There were two Caribbean ladies present.One thought it was a harmless toy and commented,”hey,it looks like me !”
The other lady was absolutely outraged and treated us to a ten minute lecture on how it was an evil symbol of racial oppression,had no place in modern society,such things should be banned completely,how would we like seeing a white equivalent,and so on ad nauseam.
Two completely opposite views from ladies with very similar backgrounds.
No prizes for guessing whose opinion was received more sympathetically.It’s a harmless child’s toy and children don’t even notice racial differences until adults teach them to.Years ago my daughter wanted to identify a little girl at playgroup and the best she could come up with was,”She wears a blue dress”.She had no idea at all that the girl was Asian.
Incidentally,I was watching an antiques expert valuing an old golliwog toy recently,and she referred to it only as a “golly”.What a load of round things.
Is there anyone on here who truly is offended by golliwogs,sorry,gollies ?

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By: Grey Area - 16th October 2009 at 07:54

As I type this, I’m sitting in a coffee shop opposite a top shop with a window display featuring….

Yes, you guessed it…..

Golliwogs.

Looks like another prime batch from the B****cks Factory to me.

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By: old shape - 15th October 2009 at 22:28

They were banned in UK donkeys years ago. The Robertsons Jam versions disappeared in the early 80’s. When the PC joke got out of hand due to the active recruitment of any leftist pinko bull-dyke transvestite misfit coward into the local authorities and they began to control such matters.

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