January 3, 2005 at 11:26 am
What does the Israeli Navy have in the way of Helicopter carriers? Are any turnhulled craft?
By: Wanshan - 11th January 2005 at 00:31
And I hear that the Saar 5 has some inherent roll problems due to high center of gravity (that is why Gabriels were never fitted, I think).
Not to mention that Barak is carried only in the forward area and not in the rear area above the hangar infront of the rear mast (there’s often a SATCOm mounted in that position).
By: dienekes - 10th January 2005 at 17:10
I read about it in Sea Power Magazine where they used the term LPD (2nd article in the link below). There seems to be quite a bit of confusion around these terms though, so you might be right.
I wasn’t aware that the frigate program was cancelled.
It’s a shame because the Israeli Navy slowly came to the obvious conclusion that FACs are not the best way to wage naval warfare in Eastern Mediteranean. And I hear that the Saar 5 has some inherent roll problems due to high center of gravity (that is why Gabriels were never fitted, I think).
I still believe the IN shall wait and see what happens with the USN LCS program and take advantage of the R&D done for this project.
By: Mpacha - 8th January 2005 at 10:06
Thanks guys! 🙂
By: Wanshan - 7th January 2005 at 23:53
The Saar 4, 4.5 and 5 are capable to carry 1 helicopter on their deck.
During the Lebanon war, several raids were conducted with Israeli Defender helicopters that took off from the navy ships.
4,5 and 5 yes, 4 no
By: Arabella-Cox - 7th January 2005 at 17:52
IIRC, it was an overly ambitious program to construct a 10k ton helicopter carrier/cruiser, with heavy AAW and land attack weaponry.
I read about it in Sea Power Magazine where they used the term LPD (2nd article in the link below). There seems to be quite a bit of confusion around these terms though, so you might be right.
By: dienekes - 7th January 2005 at 13:54
They did consider getting an LPD-like vessel, but now is seems like they want more corvettes instead.
IIRC, it was an overly ambitious program to construct a 10k ton helicopter carrier/cruiser, with heavy AAW and land attack weaponry.
It seems there are some sane people in the Israeli Navy though, so this plan was cancelled.
It now seems that the Israelis shall get a number of ~3000 ton frigates, probably based on the American LCS project.
By: Erez - 3rd January 2005 at 18:36
The Saar 4, 4.5 and 5 are capable to carry 1 helicopter on their deck.
During the Lebanon war, several raids were conducted with Israeli Defender helicopters that took off from the navy ships.
By: Arabella-Cox - 3rd January 2005 at 17:14
They did consider getting an LPD-like vessel, but now is seems like they want more corvettes instead.
By: Mpacha - 3rd January 2005 at 17:11
Thanks guys, I just read an old US report from 1985 which stated that Israel was to acquire one and wonder if this had happend. Obviously not!
By: Lava - 3rd January 2005 at 11:54
Ok here u can find more pic
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/naval/saar5/saar5_se2.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/naval/saar5/Saar5.html
By: Lava - 3rd January 2005 at 11:48
😀 Just a stupid guess… but its just a design
http://www.naval-technology.com/contractor_images/jjma/jjma2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.naval-technology.com/contractors/warship/jjma/jjma2.html
By: Wanshan - 3rd January 2005 at 11:33
Nothing