January 29, 2010 at 8:24 am
Having visited the IWM recently i posted a thread about the Spitfire there. Last night I started to read a book I had for Christmas “Spitfire Pilot” featureing David Crook DFC I was amazed to read that the Spit in the IWM is the Spitfire He flew during the Battle of Britain with 609 Squadron. How amazing to actually read about the exploits of an aircraft that is still sat in a museam. 🙂
By: JDK - 31st March 2025 at 13:07
How amazing to actually read about the exploits of an aircraft that is still sat in a museam. 🙂
That’s what they’re for.
IWM Lambeth has several aircraft that are historic in their own right, the Science Museum likewise.
Sadly, in general, aircraft on display tend to be ‘generic’ with little significant history of their own.
By: Graham Adlam - 31st March 2025 at 13:07
That’s what they’re for.
IWM Lambeth has several aircraft that are historic in their own right, the Science Museum likewise.
Sadly, in general, aircraft on display tend to be ‘generic’ with little significant history of their own.
Can you enlighten me on the others? thanks
By: adrian_gray - 31st March 2025 at 13:07
The Science Museum’s Hurricane finished August 16th 1940 on its nose at Croydon following a heavy landing, post-battle damage, in the hands of – I think – P/O David Looker. Possibly L1592 – utterly from memory, so probably wrong!
There’s the sole remaining Archaeopteryx – or is it Pterodactyl? – there as well, and of course for years they had the Wright Flyer, sadly long gone.
Adrian
By: GrahamF - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Having visited the IWM recently i posted a thread about the Spitfire there. Last night I started to read a book I had for Christmas “Spitfire Pilot” featureing David Crook DFC I was amazed to read that the Spit in the IWM is the Spitfire He flew during the Battle of Britain with 609 Squadron. How amazing to actually read about the exploits of an aircraft that is still sat in a museam. 🙂
There was a good article on this in Flpast or Aeroplane Monthly within the last year at least.
Graham
By: WebPilot - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Can you enlighten me on the others? thanks
Science Museum:
Schneider Trophy winner S6B (and the trophy!)
Alcock & Brown’s Vimy
Amy Johnson’s Gipsy Moth
Gloster E.28/39
Apollo 10 command module
Spitfire & Hurricane Battle of Britain veterans
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Beat me to it!
But also A.V.Roe Triplane, first prototype Hawker P.1127, Schneider Trophy winning Supermarine S6B, and SE5a.
By: JDK - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
At the IWM, off the top of my head, the nose of the Lancaster is off a veteran example, and the Camel is also an historic machine.
The Science Museum’s aircraft are either of technical importance or historic. No ‘ringers’ there.
By: Wondy - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Did the Camel at the IMW not shoot down a Zepplin or something?
correct me if im wrong please.
Wondy
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Actually when you look at that list (not to mention the componants, such as the Beardmore Inflexible main wheel) of what’s at the science Museum it is about as significant an aircraft collection can be.
Small, with no fat on – perfect!
I know we can bang on about what hasn’t been saved, various museum policies etc, but the above is a great example of foresight in saving some hugely signicant airframes.
By: DazDaMan - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
SE5a.
Is this not one that’s been reconfigured as a sky-writer?
Also, does one of the museums not have an original (but skeletal) Fokker E.III suspended from the ceiling?
By: SE5AFAN - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Did the Camel at the IMW not shoot down a Zepplin or something?
correct me if im wrong please.
Wondy
Yes
It is N6812 which flown by Flight Sub-Lieutenant Culley shot down Zeppelin L53.
By: pagen01 - 31st March 2025 at 13:06
Is this not one that’s been reconfigured as a sky-writer?
Also, does one of the museums not have an original (but skeletal) Fokker E.III suspended from the ceiling?
Yes, but not sure if wrongly applied or what its true history is.
Yes, at Lambeth.
By: Wondy - 31st March 2025 at 13:05
Did the Camel at the IMW not shoot down a Zepplin or something?correct me if im wrong please.
Wondy
Yes
It is N6812 which flown by Flight Sub-Lieutenant Culley shot down Zeppelin L53.
Cheers SE5a Fan!
I think the Eindecker is at the Science Museum now and as Daz said its stripped to expose its skeleton
By: AdlerTag - 31st March 2025 at 13:04
The Science Museum SE5a was indeed a skywriting aircraft under the ownership of Major J C Savage, and the RAFM and Shuttleworth examples are both sister-aircraft from this same organisation. The Science Museum restored theirs back to military configuration, and then just recently back again to skywriting configuration by Skysport Engineering a few years ago.
The other significant airframe at IWM who’s significance could easily be overlooked is the Fw190, iirc the last surviving remnant of the ‘Mistel’ piggy-back program.
By: WP840 - 31st March 2025 at 13:04
The Spitfire MkXVI, TB752, at the Spitfire and Hurricane memorial museum at RAF Manston has a wartime battle history, http://www.spifirememorial.org.uk/spifire/spitfire.htm
The Hurricane IIc, LF751, was also used during WW2 but only in a training at 2 bomber training units before being relegated to instructional puposes in July 1945, http://www.spifirememorial.org.uk/spifire/spitfire.htm
In 1992 as an Air Cadet on summer camp I got to sit inside the Spitfire and it felt incredible to be as close to a piece of real history as it was possible!
By: ZRX61 - 31st March 2025 at 12:47
The EE Lightning at Dx has quite a history….
& I got to sit in that many years ago 🙂
By: SADSACK - 4th February 2013 at 18:07
re;
presumably it was too awkward getting BM597 in and out?
A replica IX??? Would it be logical to put the replica in the colors of a IX and hang it in the IWM?
By: Thunderbird167 - 4th February 2013 at 14:28
There was a plastic Spitfire in hangar 4.
X4178 Spitfire IX
By: SADSACK - 4th February 2013 at 13:34
re;
ok sorry for the mix up
By: Yak 11 Fan - 4th February 2013 at 13:27
replica??? BM597 is no replica or did I miss something?
There was a plastic Spitfire in hangar 4 when I last visited, BM597 I believe is in hangar 3.