Japanese Plastic Model Trolls the Chinese Military

Oh I don’t know, you raised a fascinating concept of people in the US funding a governing group in Russia and I wondered if there was any meat to go on the off-topic bones that was all 🙂

Not accusing Nic in this case but often when this view is aired and Its always because of the Zionists.
Bolsheviks = Jews
WW 1 Rockefellers = Jews
WW2 Jews ( Holocaust is a Zionist conspiracy lie)
9 11 = Jews
Palestinian attack on Israel is either a Jewish conspiracy or justified attacks on the Zionazis.
Royal family = jews or lizards (seriously the top people on our planet are really disguised reptilions, Davey boy weve all seen V)
Insert any event you choose and it was really a MOSSAD CIA conspiracy, false flag, hoax delete as applicable.
Politician’s and the royals are all satanic child murdering Paedophiles.

Seriously the Tin foil hat brigade lap this up use some of the above as search terms and you will find the website of a former footballer.

Apologies for the off topic

found this on youtube the other day, japan seriously trolling china 🙂
the video is part of a recently released CGI feature called “Perfectbook 2035” (or 2025 in case of the JMSDF CVF)

keep dreaming 😀

Of course by time the Japanese could field a Carrier equipped with 5th Generation Fighters. China would likely be operating 5th Generation Fighters of its own. (i.e. J-31)

I don’t know. Please do tell us.

Nic

Oh I don’t know, you raised a fascinating concept of people in the US funding a governing group in Russia and I wondered if there was any meat to go on the off-topic bones that was all 🙂

found this on youtube the other day, japan seriously trolling china 🙂
the video is part of a recently released CGI feature called “Perfectbook 2035” (or 2025 in case of the JMSDF CVF)

keep dreaming 😀

the one thing Japan messed up on with its conquest of China is that they didn’t conquer more or hold on to it long enough.
Had they done so, the Chinese would’ve considered the Japanese rule as a new dynasty and accepted it as a mandate of heaven as they do with all the other foreign conquerors.
then they would’ve claimed all of Japan’s conquests as an inalienable part of China..

This is exactly the reason why chinese don’t forgive japanese. Unlike Germans, at least some japanese (especially ones with political power) think the only thing they have done wrong during WWII was that they should have tried harder.

any one in particular on wall street? any particular branch of the Judaeo Christian grouping you have in mind there nicholas10?

?hmmm?

I don’t know. Please do tell us.

Nic

the one thing Japan messed up on with its conquest of China is that they didn’t conquer more or hold on to it long enough.
Had they done so, the Chinese would’ve considered the Japanese rule as a new dynasty and accepted it as a mandate of heaven as they do with all the other foreign conquerors.

China was at that time no monarchy anymore – 1912 a republic was proclaimed. It is very unlikely that Japanese rule would have been accepted, if they would have conquered even more.

any one in particular on wall street? any particular branch of the Judaeo Christian grouping you have in mind there nicholas10?

?hmmm?

The Holodomor was aimed at breaking Ukrainian nationalism. Ukrainian peasants were targeted, not Russians. And what about the similar starvation of the Kazakhs, whose food was taken to Russia? Where is the apology? And the Caucasian peoples slaughtered or forced into exile, from the 19th century to the 1940s? And the treatment of the Crimean Tatars, starting in the 18th century? “Ethnic cleansing” was well known to the Russian Empire.

You are the one being absurd, with your ridiculous attempt to switch the target to Georgia. Stalin was acting as the head of a Russian-dominated centralised state, to strengthen that state & its centralised nature.

Why the hell would russian people apologize for a crime that the bolsheviks did? Russians were the first victims of the bolsheviks. And most of the leaders of the bolsheviks were definately not of slavic origin. If someone had to apologise for the crimes of the bolsheviks, it should be wall street.

Nic

the one thing Japan messed up on with its conquest of China is that they didn’t conquer more or hold on to it long enough.
Had they done so, the Chinese would’ve considered the Japanese rule as a new dynasty and accepted it as a mandate of heaven as they do with all the other foreign conquerors.
then they would’ve claimed all of Japan’s conquests as an inalienable part of China.

The Mongols, Manchus, and even Mao killed more people than the Japanese, but they’re worshiped in China.
The Soviets and Americans are the ones who saved China, but many Chinese hold in contempt these days.

naw, if there were no japanese, some one else would’ve conquered china.. it was meant to be taken back then.
most likely split between Russia which already had a presence before the Japanese, and the British..
and in the end you’d have a communist northern half and a capitalist southern half.

We could go back to 1942 and just have Japan control everything again. Would that work for you??

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the one thing Japan messed up on with its conquest of China is that they didn’t conquer more or hold on to it long enough.
Had they done so, the Chinese would’ve considered the Japanese rule as a new dynasty and accepted it as a mandate of heaven as they do with all the other foreign conquerors.
then they would’ve claimed all of Japan’s conquests as an inalienable part of China.

The Mongols, Manchus, and even Mao killed more people than the Japanese, but they’re worshiped in China.
The Soviets and Americans are the ones who saved China, but many Chinese hold in contempt these days.

Of note, izumo, their new “destroyer” holds the same name as the flagship cruiser that led the IJN invasion forces against china last century… Not to mention launching it on the anniversary of Hiroshima.

sure, never mind the fact that Old Izumo was a WW1 era ship that was also used against the Russians, Americans, and Germans. Nevermind that Japan often names its new ships after old ships.
No they specifically chose the name because it was the lead ship that attacked China.
Did the Japanese name their missile cruiser Kongo after the one that attacked Manchuria too? lol

talk about victim complex.

No one is denying the crimes of the Russian Empire.

Under Soviet collectivization millions of peasants died across the USSR as a whole. If we wanna go into a numbers debate more Russian peasants died as a result of Stalinist policies than any other sub-group.

No **** the state was Russian dominated, on the basis of demographics alone. Politically the important players were far from all Russian. It is funny how you avoid blaming any of the constituent parts of the USSR, despite one of them being responsible for pretty much the icon of Soviet crimes, but its all Russia fault!

Russia has zero obligation or moral need to apologize for Holomodor, whatsoever. It is a shared tragedy of the Soviet past.

Russia needs to apologize for Holomodor?

That’s absurd. Do all the constituent republics needs to apologize now? Should Georgia apologize extra hard for Stalin?….

The Holodomor was aimed at breaking Ukrainian nationalism. Ukrainian peasants were targeted, not Russians. And what about the similar starvation of the Kazakhs, whose food was taken to Russia? Where is the apology? And the Caucasian peoples slaughtered or forced into exile, from the 19th century to the 1940s? And the treatment of the Crimean Tatars, starting in the 18th century? “Ethnic cleansing” was well known to the Russian Empire.

You are the one being absurd, with your ridiculous attempt to switch the target to Georgia. Stalin was acting as the head of a Russian-dominated centralised state, to strengthen that state & its centralised nature.

whats your name in WoT? what tank do you play?

Name: CatchTheTeemo

Tanks: IS-3, Panther 2, JagPanther 2, t.71 (my fav), T34, TOG 2 :P,
Arty: Hummel, Lorr 155 50, M7 priest

http://www.noobmeter.com/player/na/catchtheteemo/1003212002/

Add me there.

Sorry for going off-topic admin.

In that, they’re like almost every other country. Has Russia made amends for its past behaviour? Consider the Holodomor, or the killing of 25% of all Kazakhs in the late 1920s. What about Turkey & Armenia? There are others – including China.

Germany is the great exception.

My point was this is why Japan would not be trusted by other Asians in terms of security. Not many trust Russia (most are buffer states anyway with heavy Moscow influence – CSTO) or Turkey with these matters.

I totally agree on Germany being the great exception.

In that, they’re like almost every other country. Has Russia made amends for its past behaviour? Consider the Holodomor, or the killing of 25% of all Kazakhs in the late 1920s. What about Turkey & Armenia? There are others – including China.

Germany is the great exception.

Russia needs to apologize for Holomodor?

That’s absurd. Do all the constituent republics needs to apologize now? Should Georgia apologize extra hard for Stalin?

Russia has apologized more sincerely for Katyn than Japan has for anything they pulled in China.

Japanese war criminals got wonderful careers as academics and entrepreneurs and in government, and while the trauma of nuclear bombs and fire bombing remained in the memory of Japan’s social fabric, neither their society nor government has had to face the full reflection of their actions, and probably never will.

That was unfortunately also true for many Nazi mass murderers 😉 Actually, most Nazis were later useful for the western powers in the Cold War (because of their common interest in hunting communists) and only very few high ranking Nazis were convicted in the late 1940s).

There are of course many cases of unresolved grievances scattered across recent history through aggressive invasions by countries with terrible atrocities (china though? Unless you’re including the days of the dynasties that statement doesn’t hold water. Or unless its some delft statement about Tibet or something)

Japan is an interesting case, because however you cut it, they had the effect on east Asia for much of the early 20th centuru which nazi germany did post 1939 on Europe, along with the fantastic notions of racial (at least cultural) superiority. After Hiroshima and Nagasaki everything is history. Nazis got Nuremberg and their society was broken down and reformed in the shadow knowing what they did was completely and utterly despicable. Japanese war criminals got wonderful careers as academics and entrepreneurs and in government, and while the trauma of nuclear bombs and fire bombing remained in the memory of Japan’s social fabric, neither their society nor government has had to face the full reflection of their actions, and probably never will.

Of note, izumo, their new “destroyer” holds the same name as the flagship cruiser that led the IJN invasion forces against china last century… Not to mention launching it on the anniversary of Hiroshima.

In that, they’re like almost every other country. Has Russia made amends for its past behaviour? Consider the Holodomor, or the killing of 25% of all Kazakhs in the late 1920s. What about Turkey & Armenia? There are others – including China.

Germany is the great exception.