April 11, 2007 at 8:25 pm
Hi all
Can anyone help us with a little colour scheme information?
We know that our Jet Provost T-3A, XN584, had when it served at RAF Cranwell as a T-3 in the silver and day glow orange scheme, a blue band around the rear fuselage ( I have a colour photograph of her).
It was returned to Cranwell, after modification to a T-3A, in the later red and white training command scheme.
What I wish to find out is, did the Cranwell T-3A’s in the later scheme have the blue band? I know that some of the later T. Mk-5’s and 5A’s did.
Also, what is the correct colour for this blue band and what were the dimensions and exact position?
Any help would be appreciated.
By: Groundcrew - 23rd April 2007 at 20:05
Well done Ted, that’s just what I was going to suggest. Print off my photo and paint yours to match it. Here’s a another idea – there is a JPT5 (XW353)on the gate at Cranwell. The blue band is the same size, so why don’t you go and measure it?
What and get myself arrested?:diablo:
By: RitchandMax - 23rd April 2007 at 19:45
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
To be honest, I had measured off the rivet pitch from the photo, and come up with exactly the same dimensions, I was just seeking reasurance that we had it right before I apply paint to the aircraft. So thanks again for all of the help, now I had better get painting!
By: ALBERT ROSS - 23rd April 2007 at 19:37
Scaling it from the photo posted, I make the total width of the band 457.2mm = 18″ and the width of the dark blue bands 38.1mm = 1.5″ making the light blue band 15″ wide.
This is assuming the static pitot outlet plate is the same size as our T4, 6″ wide with the hole in the middle.
Well done Ted, that’s just what I was going to suggest. Print off my photo and paint yours to match it. Here’s a another idea – there is a JPT5 (XW353)on the gate at Cranwell. The blue band is the same size, so why don’t you go and measure it?
By: Groundcrew - 23rd April 2007 at 19:00
Hi Guys
What we now need to know is,
1) What are the widths of the bands both dark and light blue, on the RAF Cranwell tail band.
Once again, any help is appriciated.
Scaling it from the photo posted, I make the total width of the band 457.2mm = 18″ and the width of the dark blue bands 38.1mm = 1.5″ making the light blue band 15″ wide.
This is assuming the static pitot outlet plate is the same size as our T4, 6″ wide with the hole in the middle.
By: RitchandMax - 23rd April 2007 at 18:34
Width?
Hi Guys
What we now need to know is,
1) What are the widths of the bands both dark and light blue, on the RAF Cranwell tail band.
Once again, any help is appriciated.
By: ALBERT ROSS - 13th April 2007 at 20:28
Hi Guys
Thanks for the help, we now know exactly what colour scheme XN584 should be wearing, and have photos to prove it! thanks again Graham.
What we now need to know is,
1) What are the widths of the bands both dark and light blue, on the RAF Cranwell tail band.
2) Does anyone know where we might be able to obtain 2 of the RAF Cranwell station badges shown in the center of the light blue band?
Once again, any help is appriciated.
I may have been a bit generous with my ‘guestimation’ of the band width, as it’s probably more like 16″ with the outer dark blue edges about 3″. The badge is a water-slide decal. Have you tried contacting the RAF Cranwell Community Relations Officer? Surely they must have a stock of these decals?
By: RitchandMax - 13th April 2007 at 19:57
Jet Provost colour scheme.
Hi Guys
Thanks for the help, we now know exactly what colour scheme XN584 should be wearing, and have photos to prove it! thanks again Graham.
What we now need to know is,
1) What are the widths of the bands both dark and light blue, on the RAF Cranwell tail band.
2) Does anyone know where we might be able to obtain 2 of the RAF Cranwell station badges shown in the center of the light blue band?
Once again, any help is appriciated.
By: 25deg south - 12th April 2007 at 08:56
The RAFC used JP3 and JP5 in pilot flying training in the early 70’s . All were eventually in the ice cream wagon scheme which first started to appear about 1968. The TMk 4 was not used in Basic Pilot Training once the “5” was in.
By: ALBERT ROSS - 11th April 2007 at 21:05
‘Ask Albert’?
Firstly, I’m not sure if any T.3As survived with the RAF College to see the later red/white/grey scheme, as I have yet to see a photo of one. However, the RAF College’s T.4s certainly survived to see that scheme and indeed wore the light blue fuselage band. Here is XS181 that I photographed at Mildenhall on 22 May 1971 and a close-up of that band. Not quite sure of the dimensions, but I would guess about 2.5ft width. The colour was ‘Cambridge blue’ or BS112 ‘Arctic Blue’ or translated into US terms, Federal Standard FS15200. Failing that, PANTONE Blue 2915C would be their best match – the choice is yours! The borders of the band were ‘Oxford Blue’ or ’roundel blue’. Good Luck!