Jet Provost 'wheels up' 7/7/06.

Glad to see someone got the aircraft correct in the end, and for those with JP knowledge the Mk 80 Strikey has a tiny MI instead of the big ASI warning flag. A/C touched down very smoothly on its tanks and wore approx 1 1/2 inches off the tanks. No other damage as per heavy landing check, no excess G readings. A/C lifted by qualified engineers with correct sling and wheels locked down. After a detailed check A/C cleared for one flight gear down to base for in depth check.
Someone at Kemble kept refering to it as a crash, they need to get their facts straight to stop the wrong rumours spreading as in the first few posts on this thread. A Strikemaster is very different to a JP Mk3a (G-BVSP). Just because it is black and yellow does not make it a JP so please refrain from guessing unless you actually know fact, it can lead to heart ache.
As for insurance issues it looks like it will not be an insurance claim as the Jet was not damaged, just the tanks. Anyone want tanks we have about 10 sets.
Regards
Tripledriver
Oh and Strikemaster owner/operator, JP operator, Tomahawk owner/operator, A8-20 and Part 145 maintenance.

smack down, bang up the underbits etc, and home for tea??

now THAT is a true classic you can take home to mother!

Yep…………….

Stinky Pete.

Are you saying it flew away again???????????? The same day??

Despite their relative age, the JP does have a gear warning system, which consists of a white U/C flag in the airspeed indicator when the speed drops to below around 120 knots without the gear being extended. Not the most attention-getting gear warning device, but better than on some aircraft of equivalent age.

Presumably the full story will out in due course. Meanwhile, we can all look forward to another insurance rise.

And It’s got to be better than none at all

a/c was a strikemaster (G-FLYY). No-one hurt, still unsure of the exact problem but the a/c has just departed back to Harwarden, minus its drop tanks.

Check the Manual for details. Chapter 4, para 15.

I regret that I no longer have an aircrew manual for the JP (or pilots notes as it was called when I first flew it) so I shall take your word for what it says. I do however know what I used to be able to do to show the inadequacy of the warning system.

exmpa

Push the button, the nose gear starts to extend, the uplock microswitch opens and the U.C flag goes. Simple.

Check the Manual for details. Chapter 4, para 15.

The flag has absolutely nothing to do with the button position.

As you wish. I wonder how I managed to demo it all those times on E of C 2 then? Reduce speed until the flag appears, press the button partially and it disappears. No other gear indications.

I should add that it worked on the 3,3A,4,5 and 5A and having just checked my log book I see that I was given E of C 2 as the primary exercise on my my A2 ride, so I guess that the trapper thought it was OK as well.

exmpa

Well, I’m not the kind of girl to argue, but strictly speaking the U/C flag is disabled once the Nose-Wheel “up” microswitch is released indicating gear in transit.

You’ll note that I said “without the gear being extended”, not “if the gear is not down”.

The flag has absolutely nothing to do with the button position.

Of course, the JP also has 2 x 3 green lights too.

Despite their relative age, the JP does have a gear warning system, which consists of a white U/C flag in the airspeed indicator when the speed drops to below around 120 knots without the gear being extended

Not quite true Trinny. The first movement of the down button isolates the warning flag not the gear actually being down. It’s really not worth having, the absence of the flag is no substitute for 3 green lights.

exmpa

Well done Moggy ! This clearly could have been one of those instances where the family hear through internet speculation before hard facts.

Heart skipped when I saw the title of the thread, but perhaps not a crash per se?

Good point. Fixed

Moggy

this one?
http://www.qccuk.com/pfa/G-BVSP.htm
Hope damage is not to great :s

The aircraft concerned is reported as being G-BVSP, a T3a

Heart skipped when I saw the title of the thread, but perhaps not a crash per se?

Despite their relative age, the JP does have a gear warning system, which consists of a white U/C flag in the airspeed indicator when the speed drops to below around 120 knots without the gear being extended. Not the most attention-getting gear warning device, but better than on some aircraft of equivalent age.

Presumably the full story will out in due course. Meanwhile, we can all look forward to another insurance rise.

You do have to hope, for the driver’s sake that it was mechanical failure rather than amnesia 😮

Moggy

Oh dear. As a fellow JPer, I feel for him. 🙁