Jet

Not silly, but possibly devious, but then that’s only to be expected of the fair sex! (I have lots of experience of that, unfortunately) – anyway, this the kind of conversation that should be on a PM so I’ll shut up now and dust off a few more books in my pitiful library (expanded today by 6 bound Profile volumes found in a Gothenburg second-hand book shop that I bought myself as an early Christmas present).

😀 😀 Christmas, thats a thought 😉 😉 Anna 😀 :diablo: :diablo: 😀

Not silly, but possibly devious, but then that’s only to be expected of the fair sex! (I have lots of experience of that, unfortunately) – anyway, this the kind of conversation that should be on a PM so I’ll shut up now and dust off a few more books in my pitiful library (expanded today by 6 bound Profile volumes found in a Gothenburg second-hand book shop that I bought myself as an early Christmas present).

“To err is human, to forgive divine”

Never mind, Anna, it certainly got our books dusted off, which I suspect was the whole point of the exercise!

😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 Maybe 😉 😉 :diablo: :diablo: Anna 😀 😀 Silly Me 😀

“To err is human, to forgive divine”

Never mind, Anna, it certainly got our books dusted off, which I suspect was the whole point of the exercise!

Hi all

I concur with Distiller’s entry.

see here

http://www.stormbirds.com/werknummer/db.cgi?db=default&uid=default&view_records=1&WerkNummer=*

Martin

It was no Quiz

You’re kidding, right??? No Quiz???

Don’t tease us like this…

Well, mysterious Anna (and look at the time on this post!) I still think Distiller was right, the Germans had lots of jet test aircraft during 1943 (some of which were very hazardous) and the first non-German fatality I am sure was in 1944, so on the balance of probabilities alone . . .

Nothing calculated about me if that’s what you mean – but it’s also clear your source has given you misinformation re. this thread. 😉

Robant

Don’t expect a definitive answer from Anna – she works in mysterious ways.

We need to work this one ourselves … so far, Distiller remains the one with the probable correct answer. Is there any corroborating reference re. that incident?

I move in mysterious ways 😀 😀 Is that Calculated 😉 😉 Anna 😀 😀

The first accident was of course on December 16, 1910. Henri Coanda’s Coanda-1910 was destroyed when it accidentally got airborne during an engine test. The Romanian engineer was blown free from the aircraft though.

And yes, even though it was a piston-driven compressor, the Coanda-1910 definately was a jet engine 🙂

I’m still confused … Is there a definitive answer?

Robant

Don’t expect a definitive answer from Anna – she works in mysterious ways.

We need to work this one ourselves … so far, Distiller remains the one with the probable correct answer. Is there any corroborating reference re. that incident?

I’m still confused – all the dates suggest Ostertag – but your posts seem to suggest this is wrong?

Is there a definitive answer?

That’s all??? No dates, no plane type, no location???

Ok, I’m sorry to have to do this Anna, but you loose quiz privileges for a week. 😉

It was no Quiz

Sqn Ldr Douglas Davie died on 4 June 1944 after escaping from a disintegrating F2 Meteor, from the injuries he sustained, i.e. he survived his previous abandonment detailed in #21. (Source page 131 of “Test Pilots” by the late Don Middleton)
IMHO Distiller was right in #2.
(Now I can go to bed in peace, Anna!)

So 😉 😉 Anna was Correct :rolleyes: 😎 😎 😀 😀 Robbo, Read the books :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :diablo: :diablo:

On October 1st 1943 Arado 234 V2 (the second prototype) crashed on it’s fifth test flight after an engine fire. The pilot, Flight Captain Selle was killed.

Distiller’s 262 crash predates that, so looks like no prize. 🙂

Sqn Ldr Douglas Davie died on 4 June 1944 after escaping from a disintegrating F2 Meteor, from the injuries he sustained, i.e. he survived his previous abandonment detailed in #21. (Source page 131 of “Test Pilots” by the late Don Middleton)
IMHO Distiller was right in #2.
(Now I can go to bed in peace, Anna!)

Hi all
I’ve hung back a bit here, but here’s my suggestion, seeing as we think Sqn. Ldr. Davie may have survived.
On October 1st 1943 Arado 234 V2 (the second prototype) crashed on it’s fifth test flight after an engine fire. The pilot, Flight Captain Selle was killed.
Was he the first jet pilot killed?
Interestingly, flight testing on the Arado 234 was halted until all succeeding aircraft had been modified to take ejection seats.

Taken from ‘The German Fighter, Since 1915’ by Rudiger Kosin. Published by Putnams 1988.P 175.
Looks like good old Putnams has done it again, do I get the prize?
What is the prize?
Cheers
Andy 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

I found this about the E28/39 test flights

from – http://www.enginehistory.org/r-r_w2b.htm

The Rover W2B/#101 engine was re-fitted to W4046/G for further flights, but on July 30, when passing 37,000 feet in a ceiling climb, test-pilot Sqdn. Ldr. Davie, found the ailerons had frozen (by ice) and W4046/G entered an inverted spin. Davie was thrown from the cockpit at 33,000 feet, becoming the first jet pilot to abandon his aircraft in flight! He lost his goggles, a glove and his oxygen mask and only survived by sticking the tube of his emergency oxygen supply into his mouth. He suffered severe frostbite, taking twenty-seven minutes to descend by parachute, landing safely at nearby town of Guildford.

Doesn’t say he lost his life though. :confused:

TNZ

That’s all??? No dates, no plane type, no location???

Ok, I’m sorry to have to do this Anna, but you loose quiz privileges for a week. 😉

I’m going to side with Papa L on this one, google is no help and my library pales in comparison to others on this board.

My guess is a German pilot during the war, probably either testing a prototype or killed on operations in a ME262. Given the fact that the Americans and British didn’t fly a jet until 3 years after the Germans this seems a logical guess.

And Anna, if you don’t tell us soon we’ll have to take away your smiley faces for a week. 😉 😉 😉 🙁 🙁 :diablo: :p 😡 😮 😎

Steve, it was one : Squadron Leader W.D B. Davie, AFC. RAE Test Pilot. Anna 😉 😉 🙁