Japan with her Japan Maritime Self Defence Force (JMSDF) w/o doubt has the most pwerful Navy in Asia. So now why now compare it with the most powerful Navy of the world – USN.
What do u guys feel, as how well Asia’s strongest Navy can tackle the world’s most powerful navy.
can have a poll included in this thread after some time of discussion ….
By: wowcow - 25th February 2005 at 07:49
The US could flood the area with SSNs, SSGNs, and wipe out the JMSDF. Just need carriers to provide cover from the Japanese P-3C fleet, which is the best in the world, including the US, they are more advanced, just can’t launch SLAM-ER like the US ones, and there are less of them. The carrier air wing will destroy the Japanese air force, even with F-15J, and F-2, they don’t have active AAM, even if they did, I don’t think the Japanese planes have the avionics to use the missiles at their full potential like the Superbugs can. A final note, the most powerful ships in the JMSDF inventory is the Kongo class DDG. The USN has more than 40 of such ships and they can launch Tomahawks.
By: legolas - 17th February 2005 at 22:35
just read Tom Clancy book “Executive Orders” and you will find out what will happen with Japan ……..
Please quote about anybdoy not from Tom Clancy. That guys books are worse to believe than a James bond movie and i think the book in which japan gets SS-19’s and india invades Srilanka is Sum of All fears. What a joke sorry book
By: J-35 Draken - 17th February 2005 at 15:47
JMSDF Vs USN
just read Tom Clancy book “Executive Orders” and you will find out what will happen with Japan ……..
By: legolas - 16th February 2005 at 16:36
Japan has good quantities of Uranium and all associated bells and whistles. I dont think Japan will have much difficulty in building nukes. building AMRAAMS and similar missiles dont need a huge heavy industry. For Bombers and fighters you probably need such a huge industrial complex. Even then Japan has all the necessary Tech to produce such stuff and in an emergency countries will go to any extent to build weapons
By: hallo84 - 15th February 2005 at 23:49
Having or not having a Active AAM is not gonne matter much. Japanese in an emergency can field probably an Active AAM in a few months. Americans also fielded the Amraam in a few months during the first gulf war. The major problem for Americans will be the japanese industrial might. If required Japanese can Build upto a few hundred Nukes in a few days. Japanese can come up with huge amounts of weapons in a short time. if japanese start building weapons in a big way for an event like a US attack, US will have to face Huge losses before it can step on Japanese Soil.
… you’d really have to rethink what you claim of the Japanese Industrial might! After the early 90s there is no more industrial Japan but economically strong Japan. You see that the heavy industry sector took heavy losses and what’s really keeping Japan up to standards is it’s R&D in technology and seriveces sector. I’d have trouble picturing a Japan that could build hundreds of nukes in matters of days or hosting ARMAAM in weeks. There is absolutely no industrial backing for such an operation. The money is already spent in R&D of commercial products.
By: legolas - 15th February 2005 at 20:32
The Japanese don’t have any active AAM in service as they have not made clear the status of their AAM-4. A Hornet can carry loads of AMRAAM. The Japanese air force will be wiped out soon enough. Also, Japan does not have a lot of places to hide. Once your air force is wiped out, the navy goes next.
Japan loses, but not without a good fight and inflicting some significant casualties.
Having or not having a Active AAM is not gonne matter much. Japanese in an emergency can field probably an Active AAM in a few months. Americans also fielded the Amraam in a few months during the first gulf war. The major problem for Americans will be the japanese industrial might. If required Japanese can Build upto a few hundred Nukes in a few days. Japanese can come up with huge amounts of weapons in a short time. if japanese start building weapons in a big way for an event like a US attack, US will have to face Huge losses before it can step on Japanese Soil.
By: legolas - 15th February 2005 at 20:16
If it is purely a scenario in which USN attacks Japan. Then probably USN will pay a huge price. If JASDF Can cover Japanese navy then it will be a heavy difficult for US. if Japan is able to deploy a long range strike plane like a F-15E or a good affective anti-ship striker it should be able to give a real tough fight to USN. Japanese commanders also have good reputation as able leaders.
By: Corsair166b - 12th February 2005 at 02:51
Kinda like in WWII, when they took a helluva toll on carriers towards the end with Kamikazes….but sheer weight of US numbers won out…
Mark
By: crobato - 10th February 2005 at 05:27
The Japanese don’t have any active AAM in service as they have not made clear the status of their AAM-4. A Hornet can carry loads of AMRAAM. The Japanese air force will be wiped out soon enough. Also, Japan does not have a lot of places to hide. Once your air force is wiped out, the navy goes next.
Japan loses, but not without a good fight and inflicting some significant casualties.
By: Indian1973 - 10th February 2005 at 04:57
if the Japan AF can beat back the Carrier air wing , then those 80+ P3C can extract a very heavy price on the US SSN fleet in combo with their large fleet of ASW ships and helos.
beating back the CVBGs is the key. They need quality interceptors and strike planes.
How would the JASDF F-15 for a2a and F-2 for strike (harpoon) match up against the
defending screen of F-18C and F-18E/F ? Both have AWACS and AAR though japan has
a lot more places to hide in.
I have kinda revised my opinion, if japan can keep their airbases open against SLCM strikes via good SAM cover, they can extract a high price. Each SSN bagged is like $2 billion….
and ofcourse they would take over the US base in okinawa and close and impound all assets in Yokosuka (like the CVN stationed there)
By: AirToAirCombat - 9th February 2005 at 22:37
USN hands down.
By: hallo84 - 9th February 2005 at 21:27
No comparason since one can actually build from scratch while the latter constantly relies upon the prior…
By: Showtime 100 - 9th February 2005 at 13:35
Japan fleet possess v good air defence capabilites and anti-sub! Their SSK shall be not bad.Actually what they lack is the lethal punch(V offensive SSM with 300 km anti warship missile and SSN).As what the previous 2 say being slaughter by the USN but USN must pay the price with a consider number of sub,warship and Naval strike aircraft lost.
By: Hyperwarp - 9th February 2005 at 11:38
not much to discuss. USN sends six CVBGs and 10 SSNs and sinks the JMSDF within a week.
end of story.
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By: Indian1973 - 9th February 2005 at 08:24
not much to discuss. USN sends six CVBGs and 10 SSNs and sinks the JMSDF within a week.
end of story.
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