May 31, 2005 at 5:23 pm
Im thinking of my future because I’ve only got 1 year of school left.
Ive got a few questions:
1 – If you work in the Aviation industry, What do you do?
2 – If the answer to 1 was You do work in the Aviation industry, how did you get there, i.e what qualifications do you need.
3 – (To include those who don’t work in the aviation industry, e.g if your still at school, what do you actually want to do, and how will you accomplish it?
Thanks
By: Sonnenflieger - 1st June 2005 at 23:40
1. I’m with SAS working as a Flight Simulator Engineer.
2. To become one, you have to be an engineer with at least B.Sc. degree and preferably have studied aerodynamics, avionics, computer programming and electronics. It certainly helps to have a healthy interest in aviation, computers and electronics. I’m an Aeronautical Engineer (B.Sc.) myself and have been in this position for almost four years now. I got the job simply by applying to a vacancy ad on my company’s website back in 2001, having just received my diploma. Not sure if I want to do this for the rest of my life though, I’m quite interested in Public/Customer Relations so I might educate myself further to achieve the skills necessary for such a position in a few years time. I do know that I will stay in the airline business for a long time, it’s a great way to spend your life!
By: Flex 35 - 1st June 2005 at 19:22
Or it could be that handling agents at DUB are desperate. Joke!
Haha, that cracked me up! :p 😀
Flex 35
By: OneLeft - 1st June 2005 at 19:19
😀 So Im not an average person LOL wooohooo
Or it could be that handling agents at DUB are desperate. Joke!
1L.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 1st June 2005 at 19:11
😀 So Im not an average person LOL wooohooo
By: coanda - 1st June 2005 at 17:30
1.I am a Structural Design and Stressing Engineer working on A380F wing rib design/sizing/stressing……
2.I have an average grade degree in engineering from UWE, I was very lucky with my employers, with little or nothing in the way of a formal interview process! The learning never stops, and am doing a post grad course in aerospace ‘things’ ranging from management to helicopter design.
By: OneLeft - 1st June 2005 at 17:20
OneLeft made a comment about more rejection than acceptance but that isnt always true you may get lucky like I did and get offered 2 jobs from seperate companies.
I was talking specifically about applying to be Cabin Crew. Having never done any other job for an airline I can’t comment on applying for anything else.
1L.
By: DME - 1st June 2005 at 10:55
I’ve a PPL and Night Rating. I’m studying the ATPL theory with Bristol Ground School at the moment.
I’m self funding, have already spent £14k and I assume I’ll spend another 25-30k in my quest to be a pilot.
Folk who say there are no jobs just don’t look hard enough. If you have the ticket, you’ll get a job.
The thing that annoys me is that there is no funding, well apart from a Bank Loan, or good ol’ hard graft. The jobs don’t pay that well for the conditions and also for the massive outlay in training.
I left school with the normal Standard Grades, worked in the Railways and now work for a Telecom company, wages are ok, but job is really boring.
I do find it hard to sit down and study, not too bad with just taking the info in, it’s working out the maths/nav stuff that gets me. The flying I pick up no prob at all.
dme
By: Redwings - 1st June 2005 at 09:45
I completed my Australian CPL/MECIR last year, but unfortunately nothing has been forthcoming from my applications, but I believe persistance pays. I’ve also applied to QANTAS for dispatcher, but was turned down. I’m looking at cabin crew with QF or EK to get my ‘foot in the door’ and to save up the money required to do my JAA conversion as the conditions in General Aviation aren’t exactly of good standard, but like I said, my persistance will hopefully begin to bear fruit one day! All those who are studying at school, all the best and remember that the rewards from the hard work are great!
Cheers,
Paul
By: rdc1000 - 1st June 2005 at 09:21
I’m an Aviation Consultant. I work for a company which advises on Business Planning and Investment for airports/airlines, facilities planning for airports, policy interpretation for any stakeholders in aviation, and also advising Governments and their agencies on aviation policy. Our firm is also an aviation economics specialist, though this is less my area than other parts of our work.
I have followed a fairly traditional line to get here, GCSEs, then A-Levels then a degree, it would not be possible to do it with anything less. I did a degree in Air Transport Management at Loughborough University. In terms of the content this degree (BSc) is roughly the same as the Masters courses at City and Cranfield, because the two masters courses are aimed at those who have done other degrees and now want to specialise. The Loughborough course is a specialised course at under graduate level. When I sought advise about continuing to do a masters I was told I wouldn’t really learn anything additional from this. People on my course have gone on to do many things, including pilots (Britannia sponsored for Ab-Intio in one case), airline and airport operations and loads of other things.
By: skycruiser - 1st June 2005 at 08:56
I am 32 and work as a professional golfer, no, sorry a pilot. I work for Cathay Pacific flying the 744. I now live in Hong Kong, a cool place.
By: T5 - 31st May 2005 at 23:00
OneLeft made a comment about more rejection than acceptance but that isnt always true you may get lucky like I did and get offered 2 jobs from seperate companies.
But that’s not going to happen with everyone. Chances are that the average person will be rejected many times before being offered a position.
By: MontyP - 31st May 2005 at 22:07
1 Aviance Passenger Service
2 Well i started off as general admin which basically need no qualifications for except work a computer. Last summer ended up in Passenger Services mainly in arrivals for baggage enquirys. During the winter kept on for a couple of days a week because still at school doing A-Levels but as off 2 weeks, back in proper for the summer
3 Pilot one day eventually. Hopefully through sponsorship. But going to get the head showered at Uni for a couple of years first then try and do something about it then. If not, ATC is another route i would like to go down
By: SHAMROCK321 - 31st May 2005 at 20:50
Hey.
I started with Servisair last week and will start as a PSA next week if all goes to plan exam wise Ive passed all so far.
My advice is to just stick with what you are at now exams or whatever it was and if you are determined enough and you go looking it will eventually come to you.
OneLeft made a comment about more rejection than acceptance but that isnt always true you may get lucky like I did and get offered 2 jobs from seperate companies.
I also completed a travel and tourism course and the main thing I got from that was my IATA/UFTAA diploma. That was alot of hard work and thats wht will get you far.
Another very important thing apart from school is to stay out of trouble with the police. A simple driving offence could shater your dreams for at least 10 years.
By: OneLeft - 31st May 2005 at 19:30
Tom,
As you can see from my signature I am Cabin Crew for British Airways, having worked for a few other airlines before joining BA.
Airlines look mostly for experience of customer service jobs. Things like foreign languages or nursing experience also help but aren’t essential. Mostly you need determination as this is still a very sought after job, and you are likely to get more rejection than acceptance when making applications.
The job has changed a lot in the years I have been flying, but it still beats working for a living.
1L.
By: LFC24 - 31st May 2005 at 19:08
Apprenticeship.. hmm…
I’m also considering that. There are no opportunities at airports though. 🙁
By: avrorj - 31st May 2005 at 19:02
1. I currently work for BAE Systems at Samlesbury working on the JSF program. Before that i was at Woodford on the shopfloor (Im now in planning) working on the Nimrods and previously the ARA and RJ/RJX aircraft.
2. I went into an apprenticeship straight from school, so it was pretty decent GCSE results that i needed, plus also several tests at BAe.
By: Craigston_Tom - 31st May 2005 at 18:56
Thanks for the replies. Ive still got another year to go at school. Id like to be a pilot or ATCO. The latter being the one Im most likely to choose. My mums mates son works for Virgin and so Im waiting to hear back from him. (He used to be the Managing Director of East Midlands, Southampton and Birmingham. Before that he was the Chief operating officer for Cathay Pacific).
By: DashQ - 31st May 2005 at 18:20
http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/ug-prospectus-2005/courses/aviation-management.cfm
http://www.city.ac.uk/ugrad/engineering/airtransportstudies.html
This is what I’m doing, although it’s not something you would do if you want to become an airline pilot/ATCO. The courses are supposed to be broad and give you a good general knowledge of the aviation industry plus the main principles of business and management.
By: martin_EGTK - 31st May 2005 at 18:10
I’m just finishing off my CPL/IR pilot training but it’s been put on hold at the moment. I’m also involved in airline management.
By: LBARULES - 31st May 2005 at 18:09
I feel the same as Dan when it comes to ATC, I would love to be up in the tower at an airport, but would absolutely hate to be stuck in one of these centres no where near an airport. Mind you, suppose its still a good well paid job, would still be better than working in an office.