Just a small Historic quiz!!!

Well done Ian, have a warm feeling. 😀

Still rotorcraft related, I’d like to know roughly how many Avro 504, were converted in to Autogiro’s.

You would, would you? Go ahead. 😉 As so many were used, re-used, broken, had bit substituted, bits stolen off dumps etc, etc, I don’t think anyone would ever be able to come up with a reliable count. You could, like a good reggie spotter, gather all the regies / IDs, but it’s not quite as simple as that, as anyone working with old aircraft knows.

There’s a replica at Quatros Vientos, that Stieglits posted a couple of pics recently.

Cheers

That Soviet one looks interesting, ever properly used? Would have been great for transporting troops and light vehicles into the battlefield

German design’s…..Maybe

Just an after thought :rolleyes: ,

While at Axl’s……….Nermal 😮 , do you think these may look similar in design concept :confused: .

May have been a few other’s as well mate :confused: , different but similar in a lot of way’s too.

Discuss please, BYE crashing now, melting ” Gut Nacht ” all 😉

Go Hanna!

Interesting stuff Guy’s 🙂 .

There’s a great pic of Cierva sitting on the tail of one of his Autogiro’s, in me lastest Hely book 😎 ,
I see it brought the inter-war Autogiro stuff to a halt, with his death in an Airliner accident at Croydon in 1936 🙁 .(some one else can fill in the blank’s if they like :rolleyes: )

Still rotorcraft related, I’d like to know roughly how many Avro 504, were converted in to Autogiro’s :confused: .

Same goe’s for the Fw-44 Stieglitz, just surplus one’s used for the Fw 61, and 261 and Hely stuff :confused: .

Any Yank’s out there know if the two Fa 223 Dragon’s made it back to the State’s :confused: ,
Seem’s a damn shame if they all got destroyed 🙁 , It’s performance was quite good 😮 .

Here’s Hanna Reitch 😀
, Inside the Berlin Deutschland Halle sport’s stadium, In Feb 1938, Doing the demo stuff 14 night’s in a row, and she only had less than 3 hour’s on the type 😮 .

Some Lady pilot was Hanna!! 😀

P.s good question J.D.K., I maybe wrong but I’m sure I have seen the one you are talking about, where, now I have to remember 😮 .

Did it go to Spain, France, or England, I’m guessing England somewhere mate!(Dux,Shut….. hmm :rolleyes: ).

Great a few got preserved, as the where a sort of important aircraft for it’s time, a great in between design, toward’s true Helicopter’s 😉 .

Roll on 🙂

May 30 and June 1, 1967 Jolly Green HH-3E’s US Airforce, Paris Airshow.

Being refuelled 9 times in flight by C130’s.

While we are on the subject of egg-beaters, when was the first non stop transatlantic flight by a Helicopter, date, make, owner, and what was it’s destination ?

A C8L MkII Cierva autogyro, flown by Mr Cierva himself from Croydon to Le Bourget , 18 September 1928, UK, Spain and France by chance ?

OK JDK

How about Paris Musee de L’Air, G-EBYY ?

As ever 😮 but I have worked on one.

Go on Ian, whats the Reggo? And where’s the aircraft now?

Sorry LS, you were beat, and Italy is wrong…

Italy at a guess, although editing after Ian, he is probably right.

He always is 🙂

A C8L MkII Cierva autogyro, flown by Mr Cierva himself from Croydon to Le Bourget , 18 September 1928, UK, Spain and France by chance ?

And another question:

So what was the first rotorcraft to cross the channel, and which THREE nations were involved?

Where is it now?

Heh…

The Fa223 wouldn’t have had a lot of influence on immediate British helicopter designs – we were using early Sikorskys at the time. Wonder if it had any influence on any designs at all.
Shame about LEMB. Used to have quite a bit of interesting information, but its pages have been decimated. – Nermal

Spot on Mr Flood!

Well done again Mr Flood 😀 ,

That’s the Chopper, Fa 223 Drache(Dragon) 😉 .

From what I have read the Pom’s got one of the Dragon’s, and the Yank’s grabbed two of them.

I wonder if any of the Yank one’s survived somewhere :confused: :confused: .

BIG gap between the Birth of the Helicopter(1907), to the time when a real true helicopter 😮 , first went in to real production, such as the Dragon being the first, being only about 20.

It was an amazing design for it’s time the Dragon, a very useful Helicopter 😉 .

23,643 Ft record altitude on the 10/26/40, that got my attention 😮 🙂 .

As has been written, the Channel flight just capped off it’s very successful some what short history :rolleyes: .

WW1 made the fixed wing’s develope in leap’s and in no time was a potent force 😉 .

Helicopter’s had to wait another 30 year’s for there time, and MAN have they not made up for lost time! 😀

Great link too Mr Flood, I’ve dropped in there a few time’s over the last year for a peak now and then, great Place!!! :dev2:

Thank’s mate 🙂 ,

A Focke Achgelis Fa-223 Drache was the first helicopter to cross the English Channel, from the continent to Britain, in September 1945. It was apparently flown by an ex-Luftwaffe crew in US markings, and upon arrival at the Airborne Forces Experimental Establishment, Beaulieu, its RAF markings were applied and it became VM479.
After that I don’t know, but can assume that it was scrapped as so much else was when it became surplus to requirements.
(Here is a link to the appropriate LEMB page, with pictures, and seemingly one of the few to totally escape having data lost through hacking… http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm90.showMessage?topicID=8.topic)

Flood